As for the dramas themselves, they were always my favorite part of the conventions, because they were the least boring. Sadly, nowadays are aren't any more dramas. Just stupid videos that they make us watch over and over again.
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Did you participate in a Drama?
by Hecce ini am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience.
camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.. back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program.
we had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation.
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Nope, but my best friend was. He was just a kid. Now he has a large beard, long hair and looks like a viking. He also doesn't want to be a JW anymore. Oh, how the times have changed.
As for the dramas themselves, they were always my favorite part of the conventions, because they were the least boring. Sadly, nowadays are aren't any more dramas. Just stupid videos that they make us watch over and over again. -
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Changes in the last 7-ish years?
by FinchAndWeston inwhat has changed in the last 7 years?
just curious .... 1) do they still shun?
what's the policy on da's, df's and a?.
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I think to sum it all up in a few words I'd say the JW religion is now much more about show and much less about substance. Basically, they're all about how they're perceived. Fancy magazines and publications that contain little to no substantial religious dogma. Lots and lots of videos that give the illusion they're a "modern" religion, but again there's no substance in them, just cheap indoctrination for the feeble minded and small children. Fancy stands and carts for the public to see. The JW logo plastered everywhere. Using all kinds of media. Even fancy looking store like places in some countries. To put it differently, if in the past the JW cult amounted in their religious dogma to the equivalent of a pie, now they amount to a really small, apparently fancy and expensive cookie. -
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Can a DFed person donate?
by Lostandfound inrereading a post re the shunning wt in feb made me think, do the wt accept money from the dead?
not inheritances but from the "living dead" as they perceive df and da people to be.. personally i think they accept or more correctly badger members who are really brain dead into giving.
or do attendants guard contribution boxes to stop such non existent people from putting money in.
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My mother has nervous breakdown because we missed the memorial.
by cookiemaster inmy parents insisted that i'd take them to the memorial.
my cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join.
i was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again.
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TakeOffTheCrown - LOL, do what? I didn't do anything. I didn't create a blizzard that made driving nearly impossible. It just happened. Of course I wasn't too joyful about going to the memorial. But since it so obviously meant the world to my parents (especially my mother), I agreed.
Even though I've made my "apostate" and even atheistic views clear to them, I don't want them to think that this changed me into some rude monster. I presented them with all the rational arguments that exist against this cult. They still can't come to grasp with it, probably because they wasted their entire lives pioneering.
Our views on religion now clearly differ and while we don't agree, we're tried to remain civil about it and maintain good personal relations. We're all adults and free to make our own choices. I didn't forbid my mother to attend the memorial or put any obstacle into her doing so.In fact, I even agreed to provide transportation. But it just wasn't possible in the end, and there's no point in risking our lives needlessly. -
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My mother has nervous breakdown because we missed the memorial.
by cookiemaster inmy parents insisted that i'd take them to the memorial.
my cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join.
i was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again.
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Brandnew - Thanks for understanding! It was a lose-lose situation, but all things considered it turned out okay. But what amazes me is how strong the brainwashing can be in my mother's mind. She nearly died because of the blood policy. Took blood and is considered DA'd since. Everyone shuns her. I've shown her slowly and steadily TTAT. Yet, she still believes in Jehovah, the borg and the importance of attending the memorial. Honestly, it's baffling. -
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My mother has nervous breakdown because we missed the memorial.
by cookiemaster inmy parents insisted that i'd take them to the memorial.
my cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join.
i was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again.
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dbq407 - So sorry for your loss. It was indeed the right decision to make. Today I've learned that multiple semi trucks went off the road due to the weather conditions and blocked the entire mountain pass for the rest of the night. So, if we would have went, we would've risked not only a huge fine from the police, injury or death from a possible accident but also remaining stuck for the entire night on top of a mountain pass. At least at home we had comfort and security and today my mother managed to got over her "loss" of not being there for the memorial. So, yes, she had a terrible tantrum because of it, but overall we've all been much better off this way. -
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My mother has nervous breakdown because we missed the memorial.
by cookiemaster inmy parents insisted that i'd take them to the memorial.
my cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join.
i was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again.
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Brandnew - If I had done that she would've had her nervous breakdown right at the news of my refusal. I explained to them all the problems with this cult but they still wanted to go. Had no other way to get there other than with me, so I thought I shouldn't be and asshole and force them not to go. They would've hated me for it. Now they can hate Jehovah for giving us crappy weather. -
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My mother has nervous breakdown because we missed the memorial.
by cookiemaster inmy parents insisted that i'd take them to the memorial.
my cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join.
i was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again.
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TakeOffTheCrown - English is my second language, so probably I wasn't too clear. Yes, I was the one supposed to provide transportation for them. This is a rather remote mountain area with few people. There's no public transport. I'm the only one among them with a car because all of them wasted their time pioneering instead of working. The only way to the KH is through a 20 mile winding mountain pass that is very dangerous during blizzards.
Everyone else - Thank you for the encouragement! She wasn't only crying. She started screaming insanely. Her blood pressure went up. Tried to calm her down but she was getting even more hysterical. Gave her a Xanax and some blood pressure medication. It was like a crazy, full-on mental breakdown. She's more calm now but still acts like she just attended a funeral. This brainwashing stuff leads to crazy things, I'll tell ya!
And yes, extremely funny how there wasn't a single day with snow in the past month but today. It literally hasn't snowed for months except today when we're having a huge blizzard like the Snowmagheddon is coming. I hope at least some JWs will see the irony in that. Is this Jah showing his disappointment? Where's his blessing? Surely many in the congregation had to miss the memorial this year because of the blizzard. Or is this Satan messing with the weather? I'm sure they'll find some excuse... -
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My mother has nervous breakdown because we missed the memorial.
by cookiemaster inmy parents insisted that i'd take them to the memorial.
my cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join.
i was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again.
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cookiemaster
My parents insisted that I'd take them to the memorial. My cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join. I was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again. Every memorial talk is exactly the same and manages to be even more boring than regular talks. I've even downloaded on my tablet some books to read while attending to alleviate the boredom.
Funny thing is, a huge blizzard started just two hours before the memorial. The road to the KH is on a steep mountain with extremely curvy roads. And I've only had snow tires on the front of my car and without snow tires on all the wheels I would've risked a huge fine from the police. So, I made it clear that we can't take my car. I'm pretty happy about not having to go. Only a bit embarrassed that the brother that relied on me was left without transportation.
My mother on the other hand cried hysterically and almost had a nervous breakdown. It's kinda funny in a sad way. She was almost killed by the JW blood ban. Disfellowshipped for taking blood. Every JW treats her like dirt. Yet, she's still extremely brainwashed by them, despite my best efforts to show her TTAT. Sad. -
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Blood Transfusion and Eating
by dugout ini get highly irritated when this subject comes up.
this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.
my wife accepts this reasoning.
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Doubtfully Yours - No offense but MY MOTHER NEARLY DIED BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD DOCTRINE YOU ASSHOLE! There are countless situations when a blood transfusion is the only way to save someone's life. My mother had undiagnosed pernicious anemia. She also had a stomach ulcer which was bleeding. She arrived at the hospital with a hemoglobin of 3.8. A healthy person has between 12-16 hemoglobin. The doctors did not know why she had so little blood left (they didn't know about the long-term undiagnosed pernicious anemia).
So, they had no way of making her better. She had so little blood even tests were dangerous to her. She could've died at any second. Had days left at most. A JW "assistance" committee came and basically told her doctors that they're stupid and all she needs is a substitute like erythropoietin. Only NONE of them had any medical training and were talking out of their ass because erythropoietin was completely USELESS in her condition. There was no other life-saving treatment other than a blood transfusion.
I've begged and cried for her to save her life. Explained her all the flaws of the blood doctrine. Eventually, she accepted the transfusion. Immediately she was a whole new person with a normal hemoglobin. The doctors fixed the ulcer. Found out about her pernicious anemia. Gave her B12 shots. Now she's an relatively healthy person with a normal hemoglobin level, living a normal life.
Had she taken the advice of the JWs (which BTW was delivered in a very aggressive and bullying manner), she would have died. Believe me, I have no words to describe how repulsive I find these scumfucks and their doctrines. Not long ago a 20 year old JW girl from my country died after a car crash because her parents didn't allow the doctors to give her a transfusion.
This cult and this doctrine is as repulsive has the Nazi doctrine or any other filthy, despicable thing that has caused unnecessary loss of human life. Thousands upon thousands of people are loosing their life every year because of this. The JW holocaust is an ongoing one. Hundreds of thousands (if not millions adding the vaccine and organ bans) have been lost and continue to be lost because of this wretched ideology. There is no justification for this nonsense.