3rd gen. You have a pm
skinned sheep
the committee assigned to build the new complex was called into a meeting with the governing body.
they were told " you finish this project by january 1 2017. we want the keys to the complex and will be headquartered there by that date, do you understand?".
when the brothers protested and said that it would take 6 years for the project to be complete and if they moved that fast there would be many mistakes, the gb responded, "we don't care, that is your deadline".
3rd gen. You have a pm
skinned sheep
The question is can you spell " model Christian" now?
congrats on your mental and physical freedom
skinned sheep
i have thought a lot about what to say when i am approached.
it will kill my fade, but oh well.. "after the new light i had to test my faith and i couldn't prove to myself that the slave was limited to the governing body.".
if cornered by an elder...."can you prove to me from the scriptures that matt.
I have thought a lot about what to say when I am approached. It will kill my fade, but oh well.
"After the new light I had to test my faith and I couldn't prove to myself that the Slave was limited to the Governing Body."
if cornered by an elder...."can you prove to me from the scriptures that Matt. 24:45-47 applies to the 8 members of the Governing Body?"
Don't you find it suspicious that we have been wrong about the slave for the last 100 years but are now being told by the same group of men who claim to be the slave that "sure we have been wrong in the past, but we are right now, and btw, surprise the slave is us!"
"I don't understand how we can trust 1914 as a solid date if Russell wasn't part of the slave."
How is it that Jesus appointed the slave in 1919 but didn't make them fully aware of who composed the slave class until 86 years later?
Why is the evil slave in the parable a hypothetical condition in a parable, but the faithful slave in the same scripture also a prophecy about literal group of men?
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so here you are...sitting with a couple of elders at judicial meeting, and you're asked the following question:.
"do you still believe that the fds is the channel that jehovah is using"?.
now is it possible to answer 'no' without being df, or how would you answer that question?.
I would say..." I don't know for sure. I have really been praying for insight and wisdom on this matter. The new 7/15 watchtower has raised several doubts in my mind that I would like to keep private. I am sure that you brothers can value my privacy?"
skinned
if we are going to create a pie chart with the following categories, what could be the main components-reasons and their respective percentages for just staying in the organization in spite of the doubts, discoveries about the jw doctrines/beliefs?
i doubt if the topmost reason is because of love of jehovah god and his son jesus christ.
your inputs dear friends and fellow brothers will be most appreciated.. a. below 40 years old.
B2 40%
i recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false.
my story is similar to many i think.
i was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an elder for a number of years.
I am amazed at how people are just like us and are waking up to what the organization really is. Will 2014 be an exodus of sorts? My wife and I are trying to feel out our friends to see if they have doubts or are waking up. In fact I had a great conversation with a friend last weekend about whether or not the end is "imminent".
i recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false.
my story is similar to many i think.
i was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an elder for a number of years.
All....thank you for your thoughtful comments. @Ding...the new teaching seems to have bothered some but not others. The problem they have is how do they express their questions without being labeled as disloyal?
I think that there are many like me who have seen the real side of the organization and have a bad taste in our mouth. Still many of the people within are great moral people. They are just mislead.
i recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false.
my story is similar to many i think.
i was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an elder for a number of years.
Thank you to all for your kind words. It is heartening to see that there are many people like my wife and myself out there. What caused you to wake up? Are there many people doing so in light of the "new light"?
Skinnedsheep
i recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false.
my story is similar to many i think.
i was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an elder for a number of years.
Hi,
I recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false. My story is similar to many I think. I was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an Elder for a number of years. I resigned because I could not teach something that I felt was false. I still attend sporadically to keep the appearance up and not lose my friends or family.
It has been an emotional rollercoaster recognizing that the organization is not God's channel to mankind. I am still trying to figure out my next steps. The organization is imploding I think. The new light is nonsense and I think it is pretty evident to anyone who doesn't want to be blind. The things that pushed me out mentally are; the molestation cases, the ban on higher education, Elder hypocrisy, changing doctrines and the worship of the Governing Body.
How many here were Elders, Servants, or pioneers at one time? How many people are there in the congregations like my wife and I who know it is false but are trapped because all of our friends and family are Witnesses? What is the best way to feel out a friend to find out if he or she has any doubts or criticisms? in this message board I probably won't say a whole lot because it has already all been said, but I appreciate knowing that I am not the only one trapped in this religion.
Skinned Sheep