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  Escaping Communists, Nazis and WTS, the differences.

  by yesidid in

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  my husband?s family was under russian communist rule and escaped when he was a boy.

  then for several years they were the victims of nazi oppression.

  during that time they became witnesses and have been for many years.. .

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  Thank you Been there and Morton68

  We both appreciate your kind thoughts and that you took the time to encourage us.

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  My Brother Died Today

  by Blueblades in

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  i consider all who post here as my family.we have all been hurt in some way.my brother died today.. blueblades,who has six sisters left.mom,dad,one sister and two brothers died.i'm the only man in the family now.

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  I'm so sorry ((((((Blueblades)))))).

  I don't know where he is either. But I am sure he is not suffering anymore.

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  Escaping Communists, Nazis and WTS, the differences.

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband?s family was under russian communist rule and escaped when he was a boy.

  then for several years they were the victims of nazi oppression.

  during that time they became witnesses and have been for many years.. .

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  My husband?s family was under Russian communist rule and escaped when he was a boy. Then for several years they were the victims of Nazi oppression. During that time they became Witnesses and have been for many years.

  The other day he was reminiscing about family life under, and getting away from the three systems.

  His Uncle was taken by the secret police because he was not a communist sympathizer. The family decided they must escape. They spent many hours talking about how they could flee their situation, discussing the means and destination of their escape. It was talked about with the extended family on both sides and some of them also escaped.

  With just the clothes on his back and in the middle of the northern winter, my husband left everything behind except his family. He escaped Communism.

  At least they weren?t in constant danger of death in

  During the war they listened to the allied radio broadcasts, which of course risked jail or worse. One would keep watch while the others would huddle around the radio. They had talked about what they would do and say if they were caught. Their family bond was only strengthened by the oppression. It was them against the oppressor and their support of each other reinforced their relationships. My husband would go out and search the trash cans for food, not to keep for himself but to be shared with the rest of the family. Often his parents would have nothing so the children could eat. They were wonderful self-sacrificing parents. There is no doubt in my husband?s mind that his parents would have died for my husband and his siblings.

  Again they spent many hours, as a family, and with close friends, talking about how they could escape their circumstances. They wanted a life of freedom and together they planned how they could make that dream a reality.

  Yes he escaped the Nazis, with his family still intact.

  After the war they pooled together and were able to come here where they settled on the east coast. When the children were old enough they pioneered and with their part time money they again supported each other.

  Now my husband is again trying to extricate himself from yet another totalitarian regime, the WTS.

  What a difference from the previous two. Now I am the one and only family member he can confide in, the only one he is sure will support him. He is not sure what his parents would say if they knew but thinks his father would have only minimal contact. He tried to speak to one of his siblings and got the ?Are you questioning God?s organization?? routine.

  So when he was under Communism and the Nazis he could confide in his family and at all times and every way they supported each other. Now, under the cloud of the WTS he can no longer confide in his family and knows that support is something he would never receive. In fact he feels he is in a very risky situation at the moment, at risk of loosing what the Communists and Nazis could not take away from him, his family.

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  All the JWD Maps in one place (except the UK)

  by Lady Lee in

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  well i have redone the maps.

  it was helpful to have them separated before while i was trying to make them all.

  but now i think it is easier to have them separated.. ballistic has done an amazing job with the map of the uk you can find it at.

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  Thank you Lady Lee, you have done a

  fantastic

  job.

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  Just curious...

  by kj in

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  how many of you were actually brought into the jws by someone at your door?

  how many were born in or brought in by family?.

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  3rd generation.
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  Greg Stafford

  by Gordy in

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  many here will know that greg stafford is an independent jw apologist.

  he has defended watchtower doctrine, written a number of books and publicly debated rob bowman (also soon to publicly debate james white).

  this has confused a lot of people as jws are discouraged from public debate.

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  1874 v. 1914 date change?a masterpiece of forgery and deception!

  by MacHislopp in

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  [page 257] .

  r2359 : page 259] .

  1926. from the book : " creation " published in the year 1926, page 312.

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  Thank you once again.

  Mac, your posts are a sheer delight. I really appreciate your clear and succinct presentation. I have saved that one and am eagerly awaiting it?s sequel.

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  My sincere thanks to "scholar."

  by yesidid in

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  scholar please accept my heartfelt thanks.

  i was reading some of your replies in dawn?s thread

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/58618/1.ashx

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  Hi Berylblue,

  Probably the easiest way is to go to Paypal, where they give instructions.

  An email address is needed so I mentioned that I used Ray's business email.

  I believe he has no private email, or if he has I know it not.

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  My sincere thanks to "scholar."

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
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  scholar please accept my heartfelt thanks.

  i was reading some of your replies in dawn?s thread

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/58618/1.ashx

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  Hi Berylblue,

  You asked:

  ?How did you send him a gift through Paypal??

  I sent it to [email protected] . If you go to paypal they give the complete instructions.

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  My sincere thanks to "scholar."

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
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  scholar please accept my heartfelt thanks.

  i was reading some of your replies in dawn?s thread

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/58618/1.ashx

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  Hi Scholar

  I am concerned that although you are an educated and ?lettered? man you may have been deceived by the WTS.

  Do you believe that CT Russell actually predicted the things that took place circa 1914?

  If yes you will be very interested to read the information below.

  ?Some may feel that the Society's time prophecy regarding 1914 must be correct since World War I broke out in that year. It would seem remarkable if an event such as World War I could be accurately predicted 39 years in advance. To consider the validity of this conclusion, we need to examine just what the Bible Students were predicting prior to 1914. In the book The Time Is At Hand, 1909 edition, page 77, 78 (See A10) Russell predicted these events to occur by or before the year 1914:

  1. Kingdom of God to have full universal control of the earth.

  2. Christ Jesus will overthrow all earthly governments.

  3. Before end of 1914, last member of Body of Christ glorified in heaven.

  4. Jerusalem (literal) will no longer be trodden down by gentiles.

  5. Israel's blindness turned away; Jews become converted to Christ

  6. "Time of trouble" to reach climax in world reign of anarchy.

  7. God's Kingdom completely consumes power of worldly governments.

  In the years preceding 1914, there was widespread fear of world war, which many felt was inevitable (4) . Russell, however, did not expect war to break out in 1914. Note this comment made in a Watchtower article in 1893:

  "A great storm is near at hand. Though one may not know exactly when it will break forth, it seems reasonable to suppose that it cannot be more than twelve or fourteen years yet future."

  Twelve or fourteen years from 1893 would be 1905 or 1907 - not 1914. So actually Russell was preaching that if war did break out it would have to be some years prior to 1914, when he expected God's kingdom to be fully established over earth. In actuality, none of the events that Russell predicted to happen did. And the one thing he did not expect to happen did.

  The year 1914 and the years immediately thereafter proved to be devastating to the Bible Students. They had expected to be in heaven ruling with Christ. Many of them left, their hopes dashed in bitter disappointment over the failure of their hopes to materialize. In the 1916 edition of the same book, Russell felt compelled to give the following explanation in the author's forward:

  "The author acknowledges that in this book he presents the thought that the Lord's saints might expect to be with Him in glory at the end of the Gentile Times. This was a natural mistake to fall into, but the Lord overruled it for the blessing of His people. The thought that the Church would all be gathered to glory before October, 1914, certainly did have a very stimulating and sanctifying effect upon thousands, all of whom accordingly can praise the Lord -- even for the Mistake."

  The confusion that they felt can be seen in a statement in the Watch Tower of September 1, 1916. After commenting on their disappointment that the harvest work was not over, but seemed to be continuing, he stated:

  "In the meantime, our eyes of understanding should discern clearly the Battle of the Great Day of God Almighty now in progress; and our faith, guiding our eyes of understanding through the Word, should enable us to see the glorious outcome -- Messiah's Kingdom." -- Watch Tower, September 1, 1916, page 265

  But history was once again to prove them wrong and it was necessary to "adjust." In this case "adjusting their understanding somewhat" meant transferring all the expectations for 1874 and 1878 to 1914 and 1919. After Russell's death in 1916, Joseph F. Rutherford became president of the Society. In 1917 he published The Finished Mystery in which he made some bold predictions of his own regarding the years 1918 and 1920. These predictions also failed to materialize. However when a new edition of the book was published in 1926, the offending statements were modified so as to cover up the false prediction.?

  You may access the complete material here:

  http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Creek/8867/Letter5web.html

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