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  Employee "Preaching " to other employees.

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have hired a new employee, he is a good accountant.

  has never experienced jw's but i have three employees who are.

  one elder, two ms.. the new employee came to me an asked questions about jw's that the elder employee has been preaching to him.

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  lol good idea
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  Employee "Preaching " to other employees.

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have hired a new employee, he is a good accountant.

  has never experienced jw's but i have three employees who are.

  one elder, two ms.. the new employee came to me an asked questions about jw's that the elder employee has been preaching to him.

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  Proselytising on the employer's time?

  WT loves to boast that JWs make ideal employees because they conscientiously give an honest day's work.

  Have HR warn those JWs that they are not paid to proselytise while on the clock.

  Proselyising while on the clock wastes as much time or more than serial smoke breaks.
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  Family division

  by joao in

  1. social
  2. family

  the worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.

  i can live with that.

  if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!

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  Kudos for achieving POMO. That is the biggest hurdle for some JW escapees.

  If your wife and children still enjoy being connected to the JW world in some ways, and if their involvement is relatively healthy tolerable activity, it is possible to happily coexist as a family.

  Ideally, you would simply become the "unbelieving" yet admirably loving and tolerant mate/parent. There are many families with that dynamic. Most husbands/fathers in that category often command greater respect from JW authorities than is given to a PIMI husband/father.
  

  If a "religiously divided" family has a reasonable level of domestic peace and happiness then the wolves of a JW congregation generally back away and retreat, dropping in from time-to-time with some routine love-bombing.

  Avoid giving JWs the impression that THEY must act to protect YOUR family from "spiritual harm", because that is when JWs feel obsessive-compulsive obligation to pry intrusively... with the intention of 'protecting one of their flock'

  If you eventually lean toward unilaterally disolving the marriage, some adamant religious opposition from you will, ironically, cause JWs themselves to help put apart the marriage for you as they attempt to "protect the spirituality" of your wife/children by endorsing a 'scripturally permissible' separation.

  The situation of Michael Wayne Moore demonstrated what can trigger JW stormtroopers to attack. If you pursue that route, it will be rough, so prepare everything in advance.

  I gather you are intelligent and were already well aware of these things.
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  Unmarried couple staying at my house

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i need your help with this topic.

  i’m trying to find an elder’s letter or wt article that frown upon a good standing jw allowing an unmarried couple to stay over their house for the night.. my wife claims this is a conscience matter and i say that’s bs, this leadership does not allow it.

  would like to find this info..

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  The bible scriptures are full a sexual content

  WT writes further commentary about it

  JW feed their minds with that

  That results in bizarre JW sexual fixations.
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  Family division

  by joao in

  1. social
  2. family

  the worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.

  i can live with that.

  if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!

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  Agreed. The main concern is the wellbeing of your immediate family and yourself. Continue to enable a calm family environment as you can reasonably.

  Laughably, the Saturday program of this 2022 convention focuses on maintaining peaceful relationships. So, whenever possible, avoid doing anything that might be perceived as hostile, because JWs have long memories and will exploit such as a pretext justification to alienate you.

  Give JWs no cause for alarm other than your quiet fade into inactive status, which will usually shift them into love-bombing mode as they attempt to reactivate you. And that is exactly where you want to keep them... in their love-bombing mode, as phony as they may be.

  As long as you can remain calm, collected and more the loving, all onus stays on them, particularly anyone doing pre-shunning or other forms of marginalising.

  As challenging as it is reversing this JW spell stuff, with time, much of it can work to your advantage.

  Just continue being the calmer, increasingly more fun and loving person, especially in the area of family life. Explore spending some extra money on fun with your family, and things of meaning to them.

  Also, if you feel it, maybe let them see you cry a bit as you express your love & loyalty to your immediate family during the conversations that will inevitably arise with your loved ones.

  Let the ordeal slowly transform you into an even better person.

  You can win this!
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  Unmarried couple staying at my house

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i need your help with this topic.

  i’m trying to find an elder’s letter or wt article that frown upon a good standing jw allowing an unmarried couple to stay over their house for the night.. my wife claims this is a conscience matter and i say that’s bs, this leadership does not allow it.

  would like to find this info..

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  And this:

  w18 July p. 32

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2018484

  Questions From Readers

  If an unmarried couple spend the night together under improper circumstances, would that constitute a sin meriting judicial action?

  Image - (Two cars parked outside a residence at night)

  Yes, if there are no extenuating circumstances, a judicial committee would be formed on the basis of strong circumstantial evidence of sexual immorality.​—1 Cor. 6:18.

  The body of elders carefully evaluates each situation to determine whether a judicial committee is warranted. For example: Have the couple been pursuing a romantic relationship? Have they been previously counseled regarding their conduct with each other? What circumstances led to their spending the night together? Did they plan ahead to do so? Did they have a choice in the matter, or were there extenuating circumstances, perhaps an unforeseen occurrence or genuine emergency that left them with no choice but to spend the night together? (Eccl. 9:11) What were the sleeping arrangements? Since each situation is different, there may be other relevant factors that the elders will consider.

  After the facts are established, the body of elders will determine whether the couple’s conduct warrants judicial action.
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  Family division

  by joao in

  1. social
  2. family

  the worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.

  i can live with that.

  if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!

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  Becoming an eyeservice JW or inactive JW can bring considerable relief and also allow more time for family and self.

  Continue showing great love to your immediate family as you certainly desire to do from your heart.

  And, please, do not become another Michael Wayne Moore of Tullahoma Alabama USA.

  If negative emotions become overwhelming, there is no shame in voluntarily checking into a professional therapeutic clinic for help and hiatus.

  The rough spots of breaking free from JW captivity are a normal phase of the freedom process which lightens over time.

  Another helpful course can be making a point to do more recreational things that your spouse and children really enjoy... if they get more of what they enjoy by your going POMO, it can lean toward a more positive experience for the family.
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  Unmarried couple staying at my house

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i need your help with this topic.

  i’m trying to find an elder’s letter or wt article that frown upon a good standing jw allowing an unmarried couple to stay over their house for the night.. my wife claims this is a conscience matter and i say that’s bs, this leadership does not allow it.

  would like to find this info..

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  If an unmarries couple spent a night together "under improper circumstances" then JW elders would investigate and possibly form a tribunal for judicial discipline.

  Alone together overnight in the same bed, same room, same car, same tent would be "improper circumstances" according to WT.

  If you knowing allowed an unmarried/engaged couple (JW or not) to overnight in your home alone together in the same bed or in same room, even if you or other people are also present overnight elsewhere in the home, I have known that scenerio to draw investigative attention from JW elders... but only if it becomes known.

  If you need other WT references we can get them for you.
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  Jesus prophesied Global ''heat waves''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/.

  keep on the watch!.

  record-breaking temperatures worldwide—what does the bible say?.

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  For example, Jesus prophesied that we would see “fearful sights,” or “strange and terrifying things.”

  This is exactly why WT deliberately plays on fear... WT wants JW minds in a constant state of suspended urgency...

  They really exploited fear with their "GB Updates" about covid/vax.

  But they've been fear-baiting since the first issue of the WT 1879.

  Fear Armageddon

  Fear God's Disapproval

  Fear Disfellowshipping

  Fear Loss of Privileges

  Fear Covid

  Fear being Unvax

  Fear Summer weather

  List goes on and on...

  Control by fear... it's part of the FOGS manipulation strategies, and it is effective.

  The bible is filled with it, which makes its easy for high-control groups to point at the words of Jesus or other verses as authoritative proof we should urgently stay on the watch, ever alert for “strange and terrifying things.” 2000 years of it.
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  JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  september 2022 study watchtower - par.

  14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.

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  That is what charlatans do... and they will continue to do so because nobody/nothing is stopping them.

  WT leadership have presumptuously attempted to codify divine judgment of all humanity, alive & dead... they have therefore positioned themselves in the judgment role designated strictly for the Christ of scripture.

  The big bellies at WT desire to mediate between God & humanity.