If that is true, LDS corporate will simply payroll more people into membership.
Remember, LDS also controls BYU...
WT would dry up long before LDS or BYU sink.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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LDS is a massive multinational religion (and financial stockholder)
Mormons "baptise the dead", thereby further bumping their numbers.
That is why Mormons hoard genealogy records, using the names and birth dates to symbolically "baptise the dead" posthumously.
Very likely they have baptised some of your deceased kinsfolk; if so, Mormons will "undue" a said baptism only by official request of a surviving relative.
Wacky stuff.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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If JWs educated their new learners about the full extent of baptismal related expectations and ramifications, how many would promptly discontinue exploration of WT/JW... Many to most would frightened away.
Must maintain attractive appearances, and gaslighting.
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Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?
by Sea Breeze inexamine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.
know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
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Have you ever summoned down Jesus to be present here at this gathering forum?
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Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?
by Sea Breeze inexamine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.
know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
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No.
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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Because WT cannot materially prove the claim of "spirit directed organisation"
Plus, the GB want to exclusively control all the 'directing', and that proof cannot be avoided.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Why would JWs want to go the Mormon route. They already have a bigger more engaged following.
False.
Mormon population as of 2021 reported at near 17,000,000.
JWs 8 mil.
Fact check.
"more engaged following" is subjective and unfalsifiable.
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Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?
by Sea Breeze inexamine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.
know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
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If you go to a place of Jesus worship but end up being the only person present, by Jesus' own formula, he is not there.
You claim Jesus dwells inside of you, so, why would Jesus require two or three people gathered in order to summon his presence if he is already hiding inside of you...
Do the math.
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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It is an oath, not a contract.
Boy Scout & Girl Scout clubs also speak oaths, which in some cases, is enforced punitively.
Children have also spoken oaths in secular courts under the penalty law.
Society, in general, rarely objects to children commiting to an oath.
WT will continue to exploit this as long as secular governments tolerate it; and even if religious protections were revoked, WT would probably defy as part of "theocratic warfare"
Like the old hypocritical preachers said: "Religion is a snare and a racket!"
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First Day of Returning to D2D Work
by Foolednomore inthis is the first day of the return to the d2d work, no one in the strip opened their doors or gates.
what a waste of time!.
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According to Splaneology, the very angels are invisibly documenting every single individual that "took no note" of the JW literature. This will "evidently" help the angels know which people and children to slaughter during Armageddon, so imminently at hand.
Lovely doctrine, no?