Exactly. WT might get it right on either the flip, or the flop.
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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WT is rarely right.
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TV and the Media
by punkofnice ini look at tv and the media as all fiction.. i wonder if the media is now just a tool to cauterise the brain and zombify us?
i'm sure the uk's bbc does.
it seems to be a tool to brainwash people to buy into latest agenda or trend that must be followed.....or you're an outcast like a disfellowshipped one.
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Yes, it has become a real labor to find unslanted media and entertainment. Pervasive agendas everywhere. WT included.
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My Father's Last Words
by Terry infather's last words.
in 1972, i was 25 years old following a strong impulse carrying me 1,500 miles.. i intended to find him - my dad.
he’d left when i was about half a year old.. his home in detroit, michigan had been the first house i lived in at age zero.. i knocked on his door and he answered.
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Thanks for sharing, Terry.
Was your mother much of a "fighter" as years went by, or was is primarily an incompatibility conflict with Wesley?
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Employee "Preaching " to other employees.
by Foolednomore ini have hired a new employee, he is a good accountant.
has never experienced jw's but i have three employees who are.
one elder, two ms.. the new employee came to me an asked questions about jw's that the elder employee has been preaching to him.
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lol good idea
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Employee "Preaching " to other employees.
by Foolednomore ini have hired a new employee, he is a good accountant.
has never experienced jw's but i have three employees who are.
one elder, two ms.. the new employee came to me an asked questions about jw's that the elder employee has been preaching to him.
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Proselytising on the employer's time?
WT loves to boast that JWs make ideal employees because they conscientiously give an honest day's work.
Have HR warn those JWs that they are not paid to proselytise while on the clock.
Proselyising while on the clock wastes as much time or more than serial smoke breaks.
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Family division
by joao inthe worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.
i can live with that.
if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!
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Kudos for achieving POMO. That is the biggest hurdle for some JW escapees.
If your wife and children still enjoy being connected to the JW world in some ways, and if their involvement is relatively healthy tolerable activity, it is possible to happily coexist as a family.
Ideally, you would simply become the "unbelieving" yet admirably loving and tolerant mate/parent. There are many families with that dynamic. Most husbands/fathers in that category often command greater respect from JW authorities than is given to a PIMI husband/father.
If a "religiously divided" family has a reasonable level of domestic peace and happiness then the wolves of a JW congregation generally back away and retreat, dropping in from time-to-time with some routine love-bombing.
Avoid giving JWs the impression that THEY must act to protect YOUR family from "spiritual harm", because that is when JWs feel obsessive-compulsive obligation to pry intrusively... with the intention of 'protecting one of their flock'
If you eventually lean toward unilaterally disolving the marriage, some adamant religious opposition from you will, ironically, cause JWs themselves to help put apart the marriage for you as they attempt to "protect the spirituality" of your wife/children by endorsing a 'scripturally permissible' separation.
The situation of Michael Wayne Moore demonstrated what can trigger JW stormtroopers to attack. If you pursue that route, it will be rough, so prepare everything in advance.
I gather you are intelligent and were already well aware of these things.
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Unmarried couple staying at my house
by suavojr ini need your help with this topic.
i’m trying to find an elder’s letter or wt article that frown upon a good standing jw allowing an unmarried couple to stay over their house for the night.. my wife claims this is a conscience matter and i say that’s bs, this leadership does not allow it.
would like to find this info..
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The bible scriptures are full a sexual content
WT writes further commentary about it
JW feed their minds with that
That results in bizarre JW sexual fixations.
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Family division
by joao inthe worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.
i can live with that.
if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!
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Agreed. The main concern is the wellbeing of your immediate family and yourself. Continue to enable a calm family environment as you can reasonably.
Laughably, the Saturday program of this 2022 convention focuses on maintaining peaceful relationships. So, whenever possible, avoid doing anything that might be perceived as hostile, because JWs have long memories and will exploit such as a pretext justification to alienate you.
Give JWs no cause for alarm other than your quiet fade into inactive status, which will usually shift them into love-bombing mode as they attempt to reactivate you. And that is exactly where you want to keep them... in their love-bombing mode, as phony as they may be.
As long as you can remain calm, collected and more the loving, all onus stays on them, particularly anyone doing pre-shunning or other forms of marginalising.
As challenging as it is reversing this JW spell stuff, with time, much of it can work to your advantage.
Just continue being the calmer, increasingly more fun and loving person, especially in the area of family life. Explore spending some extra money on fun with your family, and things of meaning to them.
Also, if you feel it, maybe let them see you cry a bit as you express your love & loyalty to your immediate family during the conversations that will inevitably arise with your loved ones.
Let the ordeal slowly transform you into an even better person.
You can win this!
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Unmarried couple staying at my house
by suavojr ini need your help with this topic.
i’m trying to find an elder’s letter or wt article that frown upon a good standing jw allowing an unmarried couple to stay over their house for the night.. my wife claims this is a conscience matter and i say that’s bs, this leadership does not allow it.
would like to find this info..
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And this:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2018484
Questions From Readers
If an unmarried couple spend the night together under improper circumstances, would that constitute a sin meriting judicial action?
Image - (Two cars parked outside a residence at night)
Yes, if there are no extenuating circumstances, a judicial committee would be formed on the basis of strong circumstantial evidence of sexual immorality.—1 Cor. 6:18.
The body of elders carefully evaluates each situation to determine whether a judicial committee is warranted. For example: Have the couple been pursuing a romantic relationship? Have they been previously counseled regarding their conduct with each other? What circumstances led to their spending the night together? Did they plan ahead to do so? Did they have a choice in the matter, or were there extenuating circumstances, perhaps an unforeseen occurrence or genuine emergency that left them with no choice but to spend the night together? (Eccl. 9:11) What were the sleeping arrangements? Since each situation is different, there may be other relevant factors that the elders will consider.
After the facts are established, the body of elders will determine whether the couple’s conduct warrants judicial action.