He did not ask us he asked the 1st century believers and he told them they owuld not finish going through all the cities of Israel before the son of man comes in his Kingodm. Also he told them in the 1st cnetury some of them would still be alive when he come son the clouds in power and glory. Unless we all rpeach in Israel then we have aproblem aobut the hundreds of years of false teachings. Because the matthew prohecies were about the destruction of jerusalem in 70 ad, which in fact jw have just acknowledged in their july watchtower. THe fleshly is finsihed and the new arrangmeent is spiritual.The true place of worship is not made with human hands it is spiritual cannot be seen or touched and is no part of this world. All earthly represtentations of it are counterfeit. He rules as king in his kingdom with his elect form the 1st centruy he came back for them .He promised them he would and he did.
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What Did Jesus Ask US To Preach About?
by Perry injw's repeat mt.
24:14 like a mantra.. but who was he speaking to, us gentiles in the church age?
no, he was speaking to the jews, god's covenant people.
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When "The Persecution" Comes - What a Let Down that turned out to be!
by cofty inwhen i was young there was endless speculation about "the persecution".
i have very clear memories as a child sitting in the old kingdom hall in coatbridge hearing it talked about from the platform.
it was a frequent topic at home.. sometimes there was lurid detail about what sort of torture "they" might use against us to make us betray others.
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The Great tribulation was talking about before the destruction of jerusalem in 70ad and as jesus told his followers in that generation it would never be repeated. see my youtubechannel seekchristonly
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NEW UK BETHEL - START SAVING
by St George of England ina letter was read tonight at the meeting with this information.. apparently, three years ago the gb authorised the uk bethel to consolidate all the uk resources.
so far over 300 sites have been looked at but more information will be forthcoming.. in the meantime we can work to this end by saving so that we can contribute to the new facility.. also skilled and unskilled trades people can register for volunteer work, collect an application form from the secretary.. to me it seems like they are going to move out of london (mill hill, bittacy hill etc), get a cheaper area, pay for the new facility with donations and free labour.
they will then sell all the high value property and probably send the money to the us.
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The biggest scamis that the society gives the local congregations mortgages which they pay back with interest. When the KH is paid for guess who owns the building,,,,,, you got it not the ones who paid for it the members but the WT society who retain the deeds and rights. . Its like buying a house paying the bank back with interest then giving the deeds back to the bank. It seems like the oorg has trulty becoem part of the new world order
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The Fullfillment of Prophecy about the last days in 70AD
by cassuk11 inthe prophecies of the messiah were about the destruction of jerusalem and the temple.
it has nothing to do with the end of the world etc.
jesus told those people in that 1st century generation that some of them would still be alive to see him return and he aslo told the high priest he would see the son of man coming on the clouds.also they would not finish going through all thecities of israel before the son of man returns.
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The Prophecies of The Messiah were about the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. It has nothing to do with the end of the world etc. Jesus told those people in that 1st century generation that some of them would still be alive to see him return and he aslo told the high priest he would see the son of man coming on the clouds.Also they would not finish going through all thecities of Israel before the son of man returns. Revelation was written to the 7 churhce sin Asia minor in the 1st century. So on the premise that Jesus did not lie or mislead.He came did in fact coem back to take his elect in the 1stcentruy where they rule with him in the KIngdom. He is a King, so he must have a KIngdom right !. If he has a kingdom he has co rulers etc. The KIngodm is spiritual and cannot be seen or touched physically but we cnaenter into it spiritually and when we die those who bleeive in The Messiah alone will enter into the Kingdom forever. That is the promise andassurance.All teachings of man, churches, organisations are adelusion and an illusion to stop oyu entering into the KIngdom right now. You are the temple for The Lord to dwell in. If you have surrendered to him alone you will know this because he himself will teahc you and lead you.FIst of all you have to go through anguish to be set free form the chains of man and others. He sets you free in him . Enter in with prasie and worship in there you find true peace, joy, etc. You will not have the need of anything else.Peace and love. PLease check out my youtube channel seekchristonly.
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w2013-07-15 fallacy temple clean
by trackregister99 ini read in the watchtower 2013-07-15 simplified page 11 paragraph 5 this:.
he cleansed the temple in jerusalem twice.
the first time was at the start of his ministry, and the second was at the end of his ministry.
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Loos like the WT society is leaning towards preterism or partial preterism now. THe prophecie sof the Messiah was about the destruction of the tmeple in 70ad see my youtube channel seekchristonly. All prophecy was about that generation, nowhere is 2000 years late rmentioned. He told those people standing in fornt of him that someof them would see him retunr on the clouds in his kingdom and also that they ( the disciples) would not finish going through all the citie sof Israel before he returned. The destruction of Jerusalem andthe tmeple is what all the old testament prophecies are about. Jesus cmae back for his chosen ones and took them to be with him to rule in his KIngdom. What we hav enow is a spiritual Kingdom , not made by human hands it cannot be seen or touched. All beleivers have to do is search for it and enter in. The Messiah dwells in us and us in him we are the temple. All fleshly representations of the KIngdom are false an illusion and delusion to stop you entering in. Your KIng rules in your heart and mind surrender to him and he will revela himself to you . Peace and love. DOnt forget check out seekchristonly on youtube
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All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century
by maccauk11 inall things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.
the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .
the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.
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The seperating is a spiritual event. The King on his throne, seperates those who want to under his KIngship and those who dont. Those who love him will enter into the Kingdom spiritually and at death receive their reward in the blink of an eye. The sheeplike ones acknowlwedge he is king, the Kingodm is ruling in those who believe. The seperation has been going on for 2000 years. There is no earthly representationof the Kingdom, it cannot be seen or touched and not made by human hands. SO therefor is eternal and pure.
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preaching work?
by Crazyguy inwe as jw's have always been told by the gb that the preaching work is paramount, they imply that if your not preaching that your not going to make it to the kingdom.
so what scriptures do they use for this idea?
the only one i can think of is the one in matt.
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The preaching work was for the 1st century believers. Jesus told them, truly i tell you, you wil not finish going through all the tribes o Israel before the son of man comes on the clouds in his Kingdom. All prophecy was about the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the Jewish system. It was nothing to do with the world. All things have been fulfilled andChristianity including JW's have got it wrong and have doen for 2000 years. They all look for a physical Kingdom. Gods Kingdom is spiritual, cannot be seen, it is no part of this world.SO God has finished delaing withman in the flesh in the 1st century and now theNew Testament is in force since tha time. We now live in the spirit and a Kingdom thatis spiritual
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Where else to go.I sticking up for the WTS.
by joe134cd innow i am going to do a rear thing here and i am going to stick up for the wts.
i realise that the wts hasn't got the best of track record, and sure they have made mistakes.
but if i was to go to another church wouldn't they still have the same issues.
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Why dont you stick up for the Messiah instead. He fulfilled everything in the 1st century. Since then mankind especailly believers deny him by saying the end is to come, it is to come. "truly i tell you, some of you standing here (not us, the disciples) would not die until the son of man comes in his Kingdom"
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All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century
by maccauk11 inall things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.
the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .
the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.
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Hi Michelle thanks for the comment. You answer my pointexactly michelled. Acts 1:7 says, YOU, (the people in that generation, the ones who were listening to him and standing right in front of him). This is the mistake Christianity has made for 2000 years. The language is written in the present tense of that day. I agree the end was not yet, because the Gospel had to be preached first and it was. When it says whole world or earth, it does not mean every single person on earth. The bible uses language like this all the time.Example so fthis in Ezekeil talking aobut wars with other nations, it uses apocolyptic language , when it fact was talking about a local situation. Revelation is anothe example.Most of the laguage was taken from the old testament prophets. Also it was written to the seven churches in Asia Minor not to everyone worldwide. The Messiah rules and has done for 2000 years . The Kingdom is spiritual and no part of this world. You are a citizen of The Kingdom. There is no physicla representation of The Kingodm on earth. The Father has finished dealing with man in the flesh, 2000 years ago.Peace and love
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Signs - Jesus - Has the Scripture Been Misread ?
by *lost* inmeletivivlon.com - interesting and enlightening theory on jesus and the signs.. wars, earthquakes, food shortages.. what if jesus meant the very opposite ?
jesus said - look out that nobody misleads you.
( jesus warning us as a safegaurd for us not to be mislead about exactly when the time would come ) .
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Christianity has denied the Messiah for 2000 years. Because when he gave the signs of the last days he was talking to those people standing right in front of him at that time.So when he said "truly i tel YOU ( the disciples standing right in fornt of him, not us,) some of you will NOT die until you see the son of man coming on the clouds". Also "truly i tell YOU (the disciples who were there) you will not finish going through all the tribes of Israel before the son of man COMES in his Kingdom". Two examples of , who he was talking to and when. He said all things would be accomplished in that generation, the 1st century generation. So, all things have been fulfilled already 2000 years ago and we do not believe it. The True Church, cannot be seen, it is spiritual, it is not made by human hands,.There is no physical representations of the heavenly spiritual Kingdom. It dwells in the hearts of those who beleive, have entered into it spiritually.