Cofty a well observed observation between the title and my first post. Actually I wasn’t thinking of it in the terms of an appeal on behalf of people of faith from those without, but on behalf of anyone with a faith in anything including atheism. I view atheism as a faith as well you see, which is my view I don’t expect universal agreement on. However JWs were the primary faith I had in mind as opposed to what I have faith in now, or anyone here in what they have faith in. So it is about personal attacks, but not really attacks in the avert sense but a more subtle form. Primary it applied to JWs faith and secondarily any other faith. This works both ways. My concerns were hypocrisy, coldness and lack of empathy and also reason based on rationality. Such rationality and reason because alienating people doesn’t help reason to have the attention it deserves. One can have all the facts and evidences lined up neatly and it won’t do any good if communicated from the disposition of competition or pride, as the intended listener will stop up their ears. So if and when the scales do fall from their eyes at the hands of these attitudes because the ear blocking stops for whatever reason, the resulting damage can be worse no matter how good the information communicated through them is.
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You sound like you’re very fond of your brother MegaDude. I hope that the silver lining of the cloud that is the JWs will be that any kids you or your brother and sisters have won’t have the same hardships. It’s less lightly now by the sound of it, due to you leaving and your brother leaving. Perhaps you had a hand in that also?
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Ok well my point about science not being able to explain science is just that. Science describes laws not what causes those laws to put it in simple terms.
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If I am ignorant of the science why would you want me to explain it?
Watch the documentary it is quite interesting.
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Science doesn’t explain science very well for some reason.
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Let’s hope I become cherished furniture then, and not he who must not be named. I wonder who she was, I’m curious now? I trust you get the spirit of my post at least I hope so. From my point of view there are quite a few materialist fantasies as well, but they are less obvious living in a material world like we do. I won’t start singing Madonna despite being a gay guy or dancing either for that matter. I take your points though in a good spirit.
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Qcmbr in that case you shouldn’t mind what I have written. However I suspect you don’t keep track of those who leave in a damaged state, or are able to be aware of any damage that is done in the hearts of those who do get hurt. People hear those with the loudest voices but that is not necessarily the definition of vibrant or of being effective.
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In my first post in this thread it was a call to balance not indifference to ignorance. I trust that clears up the confusion.
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Onthewayout and mrsjones5 getting all upset works both ways, so the question of who should be here works both ways.
I don’t think this is about censorship though, it is about tact and tact is more effective in getting someone to hear us than leaving it at the door in the race to convince.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy56k9_the-day-i-died-nde-consciousness-documentary_lifestyle
Not sure how to turn this into a video window?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=u1vWoUoiaP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xsvkJeX5OE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=37JLnVt-AoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t27da61dJ88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3TB--jo7fU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gVjfhsBaups
I worked it out. The first link shows the whole doc in one go.
I added this video because scientific exsplanations for NDEs only go so far and fail at a certain point.