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  My Letter to the Elders in My Late Father's Congregation

  by cruzanheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  well, guys, here it is.

  it's going in the mail tomorrow.

  it's for me but, dad, it's also for you.

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  confuzcious

  Wow.

  Beautiful letter.
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  "You disfellowship yourself - cop out..."

  by confuzcious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to an elder today and called him on several points.. one of the points was that the org disfellowships people for unscriptural reasons.. i gave examples of a gambler (yes, the bible talks about greediness, but it's silent on gambling.

  ) being involved in boxing.

  etc.. anyway, he said that, "well it's not the organization that disfellowships... but in actuality, the persons disfellowship themselves.. what is your guys response???.

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  confuzcious

  I was talking to an elder today and called him on several points.

  One of the points was that the Org disfellowships people for unscriptural reasons.

  I gave examples of a gambler (yes, the Bible talks about greediness, but it's silent on gambling.) Being involved in Boxing. Etc.

  Anyway, he said that, "Well it's not the organization that disfellowships... but in actuality, the persons disfellowship themselves.

  What is your guys response???
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  Drawing Close to Our Father...

  by confuzcious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even though i'm not going to meetings, i still have a tremendous need to draw closer to god.

  since leaving, i do feel closer.

  three things i've been doing...

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  confuzcious

  Even though I'm not going to meetings, I still have a tremendous need to draw closer to God.

  Since leaving, I do feel closer.

  Three things I've been doing...

  1) I stopped using Jehovah's name on a regular basis in my prayers. I feel Jesus' example of using Father is a lot more intimate.

  2) I stopped, what I call the fakey fake prayers. You might remember them. "Oh Jehovah, please bless the Governing Body, and bless the building work..." To me, those prayers always seemed like a show off type thing. It was like, "Look how Holy I am. I'm not even worried about praying for anything selfish."

  To me, a true child feels that his father is invincible. Not needing anything. But we are in need of him.

  Quite frankly, my prayers HAVE become more selfish. Because I NEED the help of my Father and the Living Christ.

  I'm not fake anymore. I need to pour out what is in my heart.

  Finally...

  And here's the most bizarre thing I started doing...

  3) I stopped praying before eating meals. I mean, when you were a kid, how many times before you ate your meal did you say, "Oh thank you dad for providing this meal."

  To me, I think that praying like that becomes mindless after awhile. I rather say one heartfelt prayer a week than "3 x 7" times a week on "meaningless" thank you's.

  Your thoughts???
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  Know anything about the law and abusive relationships?

  by Brummie in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  a couple have a stormy relationship, the girl has a few affairs, both seperate on and off during which time the girl phones the guy to tell him which man she is sleeping with that week.

  they have children even though both are only in thier early 20's.

  the children are being put in danger because the mother is sleeping with druggies who smoke around the children.

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  confuzcious

  Brum,

  Sorry to hear about your problems.

  I know you know a little about my situation.

  It's a little different, but I was nearly ran over TWICE by my ex wife in her car. I was also kicked in the chest by her.

  As long as it is not reported to the police, it's like it never happened.

  If it was my brother, I would tell him to "eat it" before the courts. Just admit he lost control. Don't try to blame anything on her.

  Then encourage him leave and stay gone.

  There was two reasoning points that helped me deal with breaking the emotional ties...

  1) Think of the relationship like a child with an old toy. You once played with it and now it's old and broken. It's sitting on the floor. Dad picks it up and throws it away. The kid cries. Suddenly, it seems the toy has some value because it's gone and out of his reach.

  His wife is like that bad toy. He's "crying" not because it was a good toy, it's just gone now.

  Also, I'm going to send you a private message for the second point.
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  My first "Wordly" Funeral...

  by confuzcious in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey guys, .

  i just attended my first "worldly" funeral since i've been out of "the truth" tm.. anyways, i thought it was nicely done.

  it gave honor to the deceased, it drew me closer to jesus and it evoked emotions within me.. i'm just contrasting this to the jw funerals which always seems like way to peddle products rather than honor the dead.. no thoughts in particular for me, but anyone have any similar thoughts???.

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  Brummie,

  I don't know you personally, but I love you.

  Brum, when my friend committed suicide, I was appauled when I was "counciled" for crying because my witness friend committed "self murder."

  This experience was an eye opener in the complete other way. It stressed faith in Jesus. It honored the deceased and... yet at the same time, the preacher allowed the program to be run the way the family wanted it to be ran.

  It wasn't straight out of a cold outline, but they took time to do it the way the family wanted it. There were a lot of tears, but a sure hell of a lot more healing.
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  My first "Wordly" Funeral...

  by confuzcious in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey guys, .

  i just attended my first "worldly" funeral since i've been out of "the truth" tm.. anyways, i thought it was nicely done.

  it gave honor to the deceased, it drew me closer to jesus and it evoked emotions within me.. i'm just contrasting this to the jw funerals which always seems like way to peddle products rather than honor the dead.. no thoughts in particular for me, but anyone have any similar thoughts???.

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  confuzcious

  Hey guys,

  I just attended my first "worldly" funeral since I've been out of "The Truth" TM.

  Anyways, I thought it was nicely done. It gave honor to the deceased, it drew me closer to Jesus and it evoked emotions within me.

  I'm just contrasting this to the JW funerals which always seems like way to peddle products rather than honor the dead.

  No thoughts in particular for me, but anyone have any similar thoughts???
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  Most Annoying "Kingdom song?"

  by doodle-v in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what's a kingdom song you can remember singing that gives you the creeps now?

  mine is "move ahead" i think that was the title, anyway it has so much rhetoric... but the tune is so darn catchy.... darn.... in my opinion, those songs are the perfect example of mind control.

  move ahead.. move ahead ... blah blah blah blah blah .

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  I can't believe no one mentioned it yet...

  Remember that one "special Kingdom Melodies tape" where they had some opera dude singing the kingdom melodies.

  I remember some of the hardcore dubs that playing it in their cars during field service even thought they knew very well EVEN THEY were like WTF.
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  thrown for a loop by Elder

  by integ in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  'just when i'm about to get out, they keep pulling me back in"- godfather 3.. this quote does'nt truly apply to me, but just when i am convinced there are absolutely no redeemable qualities about the borg this really nice elder comes up to me and very calmly tells me how much i am loved and missed at the meetings, to not feel any pressure, and that jehovah will always be there for me, and that he (the elder) would too.

  he had a very calm, serene, quality about him.

  came off as truly "spiritual".

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  This is no different from love bombing when you were first coming into the truth.

  Funny, how much of these things didn't mean diddly when you were working your ass off for them.

  Only when you back off, and don't care about "privileges" then it's suddenly different.

  Just look at it when people are first studying.
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  Cruise Tips Anyone?....

  by Sentinel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hubby and i are about to embark on our first cruise this coming weekend.

  we fly to ft. lauderdale, and sail to key west and then to cozumel and back to ft lauderdale.

  (five days, four nites) we are on the royal caribbean line, and our ship is the enchantment of the seas.. have any of you taken this cruise before?

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  confuzcious

  Been on probably 10 cruises.

  My tip is this. Chose one night like in the middle of the cruise where you purposely DON'T go to the formal dinner.

  Instead, just go to the informal part and get a burger or something. It's will help you to relax.

  Cruising is great, but dressing up every night and talking to strangers is... well... much like being at the Kingdom Hall :-)
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  Did You Attend Meetings When You Were Away On Holiday?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my parents did.

  as a youth, i would accompany my parents to wherever they decided to holiday that year.

  number 1 priority was to find the local kingdom hall!

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  confuzcious

  Talk about binding heavy loads...

  I never went to a meeting on vacation, but it was amazing the sense of guilt I felt.

  They say, but do not perform. They make the rules, but when they are on vacation - they are on vacation. (the GB)