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  How Can We Expose Child Abusers - Who Got Away with it as Witnesses ?

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i got the idea for this thread by talking with a friend this weekend who had been abused by a father when young.

  this person confronted this parent about it and got a very self righteous reply back from the offender.

  already a precedent for exposing the watchtower society has been set.

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  Uzzah

  Obviously I need to spell it out for you:

  You are promoting the circumvention of most democratic countries' civil protection laws and want to humiliate and presume guilty individuals purely on someone's say so. Anonymously posting names is a smear campaign not confrontation.

  Llbh was much nicer but PEOPLE LIE. Just because they are an exjw doesn't mean they are immediately trustworthy about anything just on the basis of being an ex. Just as being a JW doesn't automatically mean you are honest. There are sick and disturbed people in the ranks of the JW's and the act of leaving doesn't miraculously cure that! I've repeatedly seen on these boards that all one has to do is claim to be an exjw, cry about a custody hearing and immediately they are presumed to be the better parent. In some cases the JW is by far more stable.

  There are thousands of abuse victims and survivors within and departed from the JW cult. Oh and to answer your earlier question the number you quoted is not just the US victims. Some with such accounts so sickening it would buckle the strongest man's knees. These people and tender hearts do need support and need to find their voice INDIVIDUALLY. This is usually based on professional advice.

  You are actively promoting that confronting one's abuser is the best and more laudible approach thereby insulting those who, due to choice or recommended professional advice, have used other methods to recover from their abuse.

  You are calling professional advice to 'remain silent' neanerthal (I'm am not the self proclaimed big foot expert - ahem) and this is based on what credentials you hold?

  Congregational elders also used to force ...oops ... 'recommend' confrontation as part of their judicial hearings, are you agreeing with them that this is required? You presume much about the needs of the abused but they are too vulnerable a group to be used by you. Bill Bowen made the same mistake and alienated all those who remained silent for a multitude of personal reasons.

  I have no real desire to get into a pissing match with you but I will say I have likely been an abuse survivor advocate longer than you have been reading your self help books. You are better off sticking with being Dear Abby than straying into this territory.
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  How Can We Expose Child Abusers - Who Got Away with it as Witnesses ?

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i got the idea for this thread by talking with a friend this weekend who had been abused by a father when young.

  this person confronted this parent about it and got a very self righteous reply back from the offender.

  already a precedent for exposing the watchtower society has been set.

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  Uzzah

  This is a perfect example of self appointed therapists and do-gooders potentially causing more harm than good.

  Flipper: Are you personally prepared to pay for the therapy that is likely going to be needed after a 'recommended' confrontation? Each person with the help of PROFESSIONALS need to determine best measures for them to deal with their abuse. Some lambs CHOSE to be silent rather than reliving the abuse in the form of a suit or confrontation.

  Your naive recommendation about exposing "alleged' pedophiles is just plain dumb legally and ethically regardless how well intentioned. There are plenty of professional sites in existence to expose tried and sentenced.

  Obviously more self help books and episodes of Dr. Phil are needed.

  Go crazy offering your version of 'support' but for your and more importantly the safety of vulnerable ones, stay away from therapy and giving advice on that which you have no credentials.
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  Long Intro From A Long Timer

  by hillary_step in

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  2. friends

  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  Uzzah

  Ahhhhh I see the Doberman has found another bone. You going to call up Hillary's boss now?

  Restrangled, you have been nasty, HS has responded but in a highly eloquent fashion. I think that is what pisses so many off, HS is a great intellect who is able to clearly articulate thoughts in wriitng without resorting to a plethora of smilies to make a point. People feel dumb by comparison and thus lash out. The same thing happens in Grade school to the brain of the class and some have never matured emotionally since.

  Considering the ilk supporting your attacks/"position" Restrangled, I am more convinced the above is true.

  Uzzah
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  Help - Ask Newspapers To Report On Lawrence Hughes's Hearing This Week

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  please write newspapers to request them to cover the lawrence hughes.

  matter.

  lawrence hughes is scheduled to argue in court on may.

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  I am disappointed.

  I honestly thought they would want to hear about the conflict of interest on the part of the Bethel lawyers.

  Perhaps a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada about the misleading statements by court appointed officers (lawyers) and essentially lying to the court. The LSUC may also be interested in reviewing the conflict of interest policies governing the profession.

  Uzzah
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  How Will the Court Deal With Deceit?

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  given the recent information on lawrence hughes' days in court the last of may, how could "caesar" deal with the deceptive methods of the wtb&ts?

  i understand that such information has been entered into the court record.

  please consider an example of what jw children are coached to say and not to say: .

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  Uzzah

  I am uncertain how custody case matters and the deceit used therein ties in with the "mature minor" case involving Lawrence.

  The only connection is deceit and treachery but all the quotes and references here pertain to custody cases.

  The deceit in the Hughes case is the misrepresentation of Watchtower lawyers in representing both the mother and daughter (potential conflicting best interests).

  June 20th decision will be very interesting and potentially shattering to the Society's operating procedures in legal matters.
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  The Illuminati and the Tornado

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i notice a very direspectful tone taken toward the masons and the illuminati on this board.

  this is not wise:.

  reuters.

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  Uzzah

  It has nothing to do with Masons. It is merely Darwin's theories being played out in modern times. Survival of the fittest.

  Is it any wonder that only trailer parks regularly get hit? Think about it!

  "Hey you kids... out of the gene pool!!!"
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  Help - Ask Newspapers To Report On Lawrence Hughes's Hearing This Week

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  please write newspapers to request them to cover the lawrence hughes.

  matter.

  lawrence hughes is scheduled to argue in court on may.

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  Uzzah

  I was one of the people who provided a last minute affidavit.

  I want nothing to do with the Jah Christian movement or their website. I would hope they would respect my wishes by not providing my name or copies of the affidavit on their site.

  I only helped Lawrence due to the fight against dishonesty not in support of the Jah Christian movement.
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  Need Your Opinions on a Strange Private Mail I Received - Give Me Your Take

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so- 2 weeks ago i got this private mail from a poster who had never posted on the jwd board before .

  which seemed strange to me in , and of itself - what would cause this person to pm me ?

  anyway a poster named oak sent me this message : under the title : " did you know ?

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  Uzzah

  Maybe they figured that since you were so willing to believe in Big Foot you'd be liekly to buy into their stories too.
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  ********** ~ IT'S A BOY !!! ~**************

  by AWAKE&WATCHING in

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  my daughter shannon had her baby this evening.

  ashton weighed in at 6 lbs.

  6 oz.

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  Uzzah

  Congratulations to all. Glad to hear such good news!
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  Do JW believe in Karma?

  by asilentone in

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  Uzzah

  I do but I am no longer a JW. But the bitch in karma is not rejoicing when it seems karma pays back an indivdual you may feel is deserving of pay back as it will result in negative karma coming back on you.

  karma is personal not retaliatory.