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  Political Corectness must stop

  by Adam in

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  please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

  (the events are actual cuts from past history.

  they actually happened!

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  Gollum

  Shutterbug,

  Well, as I hoped was obvious, that was more of a parody/ joke kind of thing, not an honest attempt to set new screening standards. Though I would stand by the suggestion that cowboy hats and dinner plate belt buckles are a leading indicater of potential redneckness Probably could throw CAT baseball caps in there too. Also, like I said, I'm not meaning to diss rednecks, they are my people, and I come from rednecks way back.

  And as far as that screening missing McViegh, I couldn't agree more, and is part of the point I was (apparently poorly) trying to make.
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  Political Corectness must stop

  by Adam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

  (the events are actual cuts from past history.

  they actually happened!

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  Gollum

  So, I sign up on the board like four days ago, and I swore I wasn't going to get involved in any political postings. Now, it's like four days later and half my posts are in a political thread. Sigh, I am so frigging weak. I can resist anything except temptation.
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  Political Corectness must stop

  by Adam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

  (the events are actual cuts from past history.

  they actually happened!

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  Gollum

  Shutterbug,

  If you will notice, I didn't say McVeigh was a cowboy, I said he was a redneck. Rednecks live everywhere, hell, I was one while growing up and into my early twenties Which means I'm pretty good at spotting the breed, and he sure as shotting was a redneck.
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  Political Corectness must stop

  by Adam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

  (the events are actual cuts from past history.

  they actually happened!

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  Gollum

  In a short term sense, I don't disagree. However, I think it's important to consider the law of unintended consequences. For example, if you were targeting the KKK in Alabama, and you decided to pull over every middle aged white guy and searched them when they left the state, what would you really accomplish? You might catch a few people at the very first, and an occasional complete idiot after that, but that would be extent of the upside. On the down side, you would piss off every middle aged white guy in the state, and perhaps make some of the sympathizers.

  Now, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be some extra scrutiny on certain people that fit a profile. On the other hand, you go very far down that path, and suddenly everybody who isn't you starts looking at you like the enemy. The West is going to need friends in the Arab world if we don't want to be dodging bombs all the time, and singling out the people who will most likely be most sympathetic to the West (ie, students, business men, techies, plus the guy at the kwiki-mart) is probably not the best way to win friends.

  It's a fine line, and I don't think there are easy answers on this. The "kill em all, and let God sort it out" just ain't going to work no more.
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  Political Corectness must stop

  by Adam in

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  please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

  (the events are actual cuts from past history.

  they actually happened!

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  Gollum

  I think you missed one.

  12. April 19, 1995 A bomb rips through the Alfred P. Murrah Federal building, killing 168 people. This act was perpetrated by which of the following:

  1.) Muslum extremists between the ages of 19 and 40.

  2.) Kathy Lee Gifford

  3.) Fred Astaire

  4.) White male rednecks.

  I think that we should be screening for large belt buckles and cowboy hats.

  Actually, I don't disagree with you that most of the screening that goes on is silly and ineffecual. I just think that being simplistic in our response to it will do more harm than good. I was two blocks from a bomb going off in the 80's, which scared the hell out of me. Who placed it? White supremacists. It's a big old ugly world, and pretending that bad guys only come in one flavor will just get you blindsided.
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  What Are Your Goals For The Memorial Season?

  by minimus in

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  be zealous for what is good!

  is the article of the latest km.

  there's a box in the article that has the following question---what are your goals for the memorial season?-----here are the check off points that should be answered to this question.

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  Gollum

  I plan on sacrificing a virgin to Pan. .......Opps, sorry wrong spring festival. I keep getting my "Kingdom Ministry" and my "Decadence Daytimer" mixed up.
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  First time caller, long time lurker

  by Gollum in

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  finally, guilt at just being a lurker has driven me onto the board.

  not that i feel i have much to add, but did want to extend my appreciation for much of the information and insight i have received from many of the posters here.. i suppose some brief synopsis of my story should be forthcoming.

  its very similar to many of stories i have read here.. was raised in the truth ,third generation on both sides.

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  Gollum

  See, I'm being sucked in already. Dangnabit, I knew this would happen!!!

  Once again, too simple minded to figure out quotes thingamajig.

  blondie:

  Thanks for the welcome. I'm unsure if I'm being paranoid about identification, or if they really are out to get me. I guess if I learned one thing from the eighties (and one per decade is my usual rate) it was the concept of "plausible deniability". I figure as long as I have that, I'm okay. In regards to faith in the bible, I do have a certain unease that perhaps I'm throwing out a baby with this bathwater. It's just that I've drank so much bathwater that I have to stand on dry land for awhile. I recently read an interesting book that related to this same experience, only for an entire culture. It was A.N. Wilsons book "God's Funeral". It is about the Victorians trying to cope with the facts about geology, and evolution basically disproving at least a literal belief in the bible. It's interesting to read something and realize you are going through the same mental process that most of the rest of the human race went through over a hundred years ago.

  CC Ryder:

  I know how you feel. Personally, I sort of don't care what they do, I feel like I've moved beyond their little games and don't give a rat's behind about it. However, it would so upset my mother, and really hurt her, so I want to avoid it if at all possible. Kind of pisses me off that the only effect any action would have would be to hurt someone who is extremely loyal to their belief system.

  DanTheMan:

  Well, I'm not exactly sitting atop the bell curve for normality myself.

  onacruse:

  It has changed a lot. To me it seems they sort of grab a paradigm every 20 years or so and flog it into the ground, then look back a few years and grab some other outdated concept. Probably a whole other topic there. Great, I'm really getting sucked in, I'm thinking of starting another topic, arghh. I need an intervention!!

  outnfree:

  The golum thing is probably best explained by other references. I sort of relate to it in the big, dumb, pound people on head sort of way. Here's one reference. http://www.jewishmag.com/26mag/golem/golem.htm
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  First time caller, long time lurker

  by Gollum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  finally, guilt at just being a lurker has driven me onto the board.

  not that i feel i have much to add, but did want to extend my appreciation for much of the information and insight i have received from many of the posters here.. i suppose some brief synopsis of my story should be forthcoming.

  its very similar to many of stories i have read here.. was raised in the truth ,third generation on both sides.

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  Gollum

  Inserter:

  Well, I am a fan, though I actually screwed up the name. I was aiming for the Golum that according to Jewish legend was created in Prauge. However, not being all that bright, I typed in how I thought it was spelled, looked right, and went with it. After I realized my mistake, I was sort of stuck with it.
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  First time caller, long time lurker

  by Gollum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  finally, guilt at just being a lurker has driven me onto the board.

  not that i feel i have much to add, but did want to extend my appreciation for much of the information and insight i have received from many of the posters here.. i suppose some brief synopsis of my story should be forthcoming.

  its very similar to many of stories i have read here.. was raised in the truth ,third generation on both sides.

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  Gollum

  Aw, shucks everybody. Thanks for the welcome. ……..Hey, hold it, you’re love bombing me!!!!

  Not even going to try the fancy pants quote function, but here’s a shout back to a few of you.

  Ballistic:

  I have no illusions about some of the people in the org. I sort of always thought being in a hall was a lot like living in a small village. Everybody knows everybody else’s business, and it tends to amplify some strange behavior.

  And one of things that I always kept going all through my time in the borg were outside interests and friends. I have no idea how I got away with it for so long, but I always did.

  Francious:

  I actually can’t take the credit you give me. I lived with the cognitive dissonance for a lot longer than a person more committed to truth and honesty would have. It was simply easier for me, but it finally reached a point where I couldn’t live with myself anymore.

  BTW, always enjoy your posts, especially about the org. I swear I’m going to try and avoid getting into political discussions on this board, but if I do, I’ll enjoy sparring with you, since I sit much more on the spawn of satan side, and sort of have romantic fantasies about Hillary Clinton <grin>.

  Gopher:

  Definitely the weirdness from the org was very wearing. You never knew what bee was going to get into their bonnet next, and since it really wasn’t based on either logic or scripture, you could never anticipate. it.

  What I enjoyed was the sort of localized, personal weirdness and obsessions of some of the people in the hall. Amusing as all get out.
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  First time caller, long time lurker

  by Gollum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  finally, guilt at just being a lurker has driven me onto the board.

  not that i feel i have much to add, but did want to extend my appreciation for much of the information and insight i have received from many of the posters here.. i suppose some brief synopsis of my story should be forthcoming.

  its very similar to many of stories i have read here.. was raised in the truth ,third generation on both sides.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Gollum

  Finally, guilt at just being a lurker has driven me onto the board. Not that I feel I have much to add, but did want to extend my appreciation for much of the information and insight I have received from many of the posters here.

  I suppose some brief synopsis of my story should be forthcoming. It’s very similar to many of stories I have read here.

  Was raised in the “truth” ,third generation on both sides. Currently inactive, haven’t been to a meeting (other than occasionally when visiting my mother, nicely out of state) for a couple of years. Planning on staying inactive, in other words, actively trying to avoid da/df for family reasons. This is actually one of the reasons I haven’t posted, I don’t want to much personal info to slip out, which, being a bit of a long winded SOB, probably will if I post too much. Avoidance hasn’t been much of a problem thus far, though an unsuccessful attempt was made by one of the elder’s of my former hall to contact me quite recently. I’m confident they will give up as soon as the pre memorial “encourage the weak/burn the heathens” campaign is over. Till then I can easily avoid contact.

  I finally left not due to being disillusioned with the people that I knew in the org, many of whom I sincerely wished I could have stayed friends with, but due to finally allowing myself to realize that:

  A.) In my opinion, the bible, while a fascinating book, is basically fiction. Really interesting fiction, but fiction nonetheless.

  B.) The org had then taken that fiction and tried to perform contortions of logic to it that would make a UFO convention look like a meeting of the skeptics society.

  As I said, I didn’t have too many issues with the people in the wide variety of congregations I was in. Sure, if you drilled down, you’d get a large sample of idiots, a**holes, power mongers, and just plain weirdness. But that’s true of any group, especially more fringe, isolated groups like the witnesses, and insurance agents. Plus, I like to think of myself as a connoisseur of weirdness, and boy, you could snort some of the pure stuff at a hall. I also knew and loved a large group of people that I’ve been forced to leave behind for my own protection.