We haven't heard much recently about India. Whats the current situation over there?
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India ... what's the latest?
by no-zombie inwe haven't heard much recently about india.
whats the current situation over there?
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New light in this weeks WT?
by Indian Larry inanybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?
for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.
in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.
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My take on this weeks WT study article for what its worth, is that it was written to once again reinforce the new idea that the truth didn't really become the the truth until that 1918-1919 period as an attempt to distance themselves from Russel and his teachings ... and to continue establishing the legitimacy the establishment Governing Body arrangement. Interestingly, 'the death of the two witnesses' of Revelation 11 and the 'valley of dry bones' of Ezekiel 37, were not even referenced this time (as they would have been in the past), leading me to my conclusion that the time before 1918 didn't really count as much.
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This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies
by the-Question inso, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?
nothing better to do with your time?.
you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.
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no-zombie
You know what Question ... you are worthless piece of shit. You've just insulted every victim of sexual child abuse and their partners, that's ever been part of the Organization. What you fail to realize is that this site is perhaps one of the few places that people could turn to regain a little composure from what what has happened to them or the ones they love within the supposedly holly walls of the Kingdom Hall. And one day, when you love someone more that you do yourself, you might understand how wrong you've really been today.
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A question for those who still go to the meetings
by no-zombie inand it is ... why do most at the hall prefer to sit at the back and leave front rows empty?.
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Thanks for replying guys ... and yep ... I had came to the same conclusions that you did. However I think that from all of this, when we think about, it doesn't it really show the general lack of interest that the congregations have for whats being said from the platform. Even the Governing Body's costly move towards introducing video hasn't made any lasting improvements in reversing the boredom felt by all. Of course there is the emotional highs (cue sad music) that come from watching stories like those about the earthquake victims in Haiti, but it quickly dissipates withing a few minutes and things go back to normal. Yes, sitting at the back of the hall is a clear sign that people want to distance themselves for whats going on and most would be happier if they could have another night off from the meetings. Its funny really that the Governing Body still hasn't got it, that we are all tired of the "work harder" message. No one can run forever and as a direct result, the majority has now just turned off.
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A question for those who still go to the meetings
by no-zombie inand it is ... why do most at the hall prefer to sit at the back and leave front rows empty?.
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And it is ... Why do most at the hall prefer to sit at the back and leave front rows empty?
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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"
by breakfast of champions inmy wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
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While I'm aware of letters to BOEs covering the confidentiality of child abuse cases, I've never seen a copy of any letter stating any kind of "punishment" other that the standard ones that relates to "an Elder that breaks judicial confidentiality may no-longer qualify as such". And as such a "punishment" letter would have to had been sent to every congregation Body world wide to be effective, I'm a little surprised that not one copy of it, has surfaced publicly when we consider how many ex-Elders and sympathizers are anti child abuse supporters.
I may be wrong ... but I'm fairly sure that if Elders were threatened with disfellowshiping for reveling child abuse the police (as I understand what some are saying here), that letter would have surfaced in the Australian Royal Commission and been used to rip apart the Watchtower defense.
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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"
by breakfast of champions inmy wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
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thanks BOC for doing this for us.
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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"
by breakfast of champions inmy wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
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BOC
Would you mind taking a good photo of the whole page where the add appeared. It could be used to prove its source undoubtedly to non-US ones.
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Life is changing for me: no pioneering, got a job!
by Skepsis ina month ago i decided to register in this board.
i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.
i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.
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Hi Skepsis,
Many of us here have stepped down from various positions within the Organization. I was an Elder, on the RBC, a School Overseer, two public talks a month and and lot, lot more ... so I can sympathize with your feelings and the pressures you've had to endure. As a consequence, my advice to you, is to slowly drop responsibilities over time, according to your own timetable. Getting burnt-out isn't fun and believe me when I say, it takes a long time to recover ... so look after your own health, whatever it takes. And If people try to make you feel guilty, just remember that if the shoe was on the other foot .... if you were no longer valuable to Society ... you'd be dropped like a hot potato. Just like the DO's, Special Pioneers and the thousands of sacked Bethelites; on the road without a penny to their name.
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Why I admire the more risky O.P starters.
by The Rebel instarting an o.p is a challenge.the person who starts the o.p then relies on fellow posters to obtain feedback and hopefully keep the o.p, informative and positive.
so starting an o.p becomes " shared accountabilility" between o.p starter, and thread poster.. some o.p's will be more of a risk factor than others, because some topics are more controversial.
so when i start an o.p i now ask myself what is:-.
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While I haven't started as many threads as yourself; Rebel, but recently I've thought about stepping back from posting because of a few who have the habit of hammering down hard against an idea or view that doesn't agree with their own. And in all honesty, what attracted me to this forum from the beginning was the fact that we could express any view or comment without the fear of becoming embroiled in some kind of trouble. Yet, it seems those few have the intent on doing the Governing Body's work for them by discouraging free comment from those who offer or ask something with good intent.