Posts by no-zombie

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North and South Korea making up will start JWs saying the cry of Peace and Security is here

by Isambard Crater in

i can see it happening.... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/kim-yo-jong-meets-south-korean-president-in-seoul-as-thaw-continues.

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This is politics 101 - You never listen to what politicians say; you only what that they do (and what they have done).

And a very quick examination of NK reveals a leader who literally starves his whole nation to build his nuclear weapons. One that has assassinated close family and friends to remove the risk of political rivalry ... and made his country into a export center for the industrialized production of crystal meth and human trafficking.

So based on these very brief facts, when any problem that arrives in the near future, what could threaten his personal power, what will Kim Jong Un's natural reaction be?

I'll leave it to you to answer it ... but as you to reflect on the truism of Jeremiah 13:23

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North and South Korea making up will start JWs saying the cry of Peace and Security is here

by Isambard Crater in

i can see it happening.... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/kim-yo-jong-meets-south-korean-president-in-seoul-as-thaw-continues.

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I'm sorry to say, that there is no way that there is going to be peace in Korea. In all likelihood, after the games there will be another missile or nuclear test ... and much sooner than latter, the United States will attempt to surgically strike NK's weapon facilities. NK will not respond well ... and the 'you know what' will hit that fan. Its a given and all the serious press and military/political think tanks are saying it.

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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness

by EdenOne in

based on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.

the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.

the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.

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Any spotlight ion the Organization is a good thing regardless of the outcome. However, it does seem that some old fashioned campaigning is needed here to get those required numbers. Unfortunately I don't live the EU to provide real help, but it looks like a good chance for a few enthusiastic heretics too have their own carts ... to give those in Warwick another thing to worry about.

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You or Family at Uni? Bye bye Ministerial Servants Position

by snugglebunny in

kingdom ministry school.

2018 service year.

programme for congregation elders: file:///c:/users/michael/downloads/kms-tk18-e_no8.pdf.

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As a postscript, I just wanted to add that these school outlines are NOT handed out to the Elders who attend. This means that the person who leaked this document is either a CO or upper Bethelite. Which I find quite encouraging.

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You or Family at Uni? Bye bye Ministerial Servants Position

by snugglebunny in

kingdom ministry school.

2018 service year.

programme for congregation elders: file:///c:/users/michael/downloads/kms-tk18-e_no8.pdf.

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I was able to get the whole 'official' outline for talk no.8 just by typing into google ... kms-tk18-E_no8.pdf.

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Public Talk quote

by no-zombie in

does anyone who has access to the collection of public talk outlines,and remember the quote "half the world's scientist work on weapons of war" (or words to that effect)?

i used to have them myself, but sadly they are gone.

i'd like to follow that quote back to its original source if i can.

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Does anyone who has access to the collection of public talk outlines,and remember the quote "half the world's scientist work on weapons of war" (or words to that effect)? I used to have them myself, but sadly they are gone. I'd like to follow that quote back to its original source if I can. Thanks

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Is there a way back?

by Gorbatchov in

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think this night about former and current leadership of jw.org, and the use of multimedia and broadcasting, imaging a theodore jaracks kind of gb member would be chosen again.. is there a way back possibility for jw.org to end all the multimedia circus and a go of the radar for the gb again?.

a one way street?.

g..

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I've been with the Organization for a long time, all my life actually and I can not remember it ever returning to a arrangement that's been scraped. And while in the past I've personally hoped that the Society would return to the less judgmental and more family like congregations of the pre80s, I now have come to understand that this will never occur.

The Organization has only gotten worse, with it being only more draconian as its power has being taken by the Governing Body completely. And because the Brotherhood now believes the subliminal story that the Governing Body is as good as the 12 apostles, any coup, any move to push a Governing Body member out, any major change doctrinal change would only just expose the lie that it is.

Russell started this train on it's a one way track ... and there is no turning around ... regardless of what lies ahead.

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What Will The Future Hold For Jehovah's Witnesses

by VW.org in

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as descibed by the title here is a link to reddit of a what i believe is a powerful post with heaps of information.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ovq5o/watchtowers_decline_what_will_the_future_hold_for/?utm_source=reddit-android.

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Thanks John Redwood for this information. For me and others I'm guessing, the global data base is the most interesting comment you made. The question I was thinking about when I first read of it was ... Why? Why would the Organization go to the extra expense of creating and maintain a record of every witness, when all the functions that require a current record of a person's status is already being done at a congregational level ... and particularly more so, now that the CO's have the full authority to appoint Elder and Servants without Branch involvement.

For me ... and perhaps I'm going a bit nutty here ... but assigning each witness a number really seems more like an accounting tool. Could we be seeing the moves to introduce personal tithing? I always though it could be on the cards, as a way to solve their financial woes.

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Why the meetings are boring and uninspiring

by UnshackleTheChains in

each individual may have their own views as to why they feel the meetings are boring and uninspiring.

in my case i find the midweek meeting so, because of the constant emphasis on pitching watchtower literature.

its just monotonous and one big yawn.. i watch other christian faiths where they open up a chapter of the bible and discuss it's contents.

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In the past you could blame the body of Elders for a boring meeting. But now that nearly all of the parts are either a Q&A from the workbook, scripted or a video ... the blame now lies with the Governing Body. Their drive to either make a more unified message or to compensate for the lack of Elders and Servants, has actuality made things worse.

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Don't you think that some people are just better off within the org?

by paradiseseeker in

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this is my first post, i will introduce myself later.

first of all, i must say that english is not my mother tongue (i'm spanish), so excuse me if i make any mistake.. do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the jws?

some of them are too worldlyphobic to be around non-jws, too dependent on a fixed set of rules in order to carry on with their lives, too dependent on the hope of paradise and resurrection, too unable to leave their personal comfort zone within the organization.

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But OnTheWayOut, I reckon that people return to the Organization (or never leave mentally) do so for the good that they feel. If we are all honest, through out all the years we were menially in, was not there many times we actually enjoyed being a Witness? I enjoyed being an Ministerial Servant and Elder ... well I got the satisfaction of helping others, my friends in the congregation despite being very busy. I felt the satisfaction of a person knowing that had the 'truth' and was a little special. I felt safe amongst people who were my brothers. And I was happy that I had a good future to look forward to. We all had those feelings at some time.

Of course, those feelings were based on a lie and all most none of it was real but we still felt it.

And I guessing that many people would stay with the Society even if they knew it was fake, because they would consider it still better than being outside. Anyway thats what I though.

In any case I wish everyone a good new year ... and I'm sure the Governing Body will provide for us many interesting topics for us to discuss in the weeks and months to come.

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