Posts by no-zombie

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Australian Royal Commision round 2

by no-zombie in

round two of the australian royal commission into institutional child abuse has all the makings of a very damaging event for the organization, if what is going to happen to the catholic church is any indication.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/royal-commission-most-catholic-archbishops-to-give-evidence/8240208.

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If anyone expects some sort of 'mea culpa' from the Organization during the next sitting of ARC, they will be sadly disappointed. The GB understands that the child abuse problem (and their historic way of dealing with it) is a global problem. And as such, they are clearly handling it in a global manner. Actually, they have no choice because if they making the mistake of admitting culpability in one country, it would have an immediate run-on to legal proceedings in other countries.

So as bad as it is, I fully expect that whoever the GB sends to represent the Society, the instructions from Warwick will be for them to just continue delaying and promising reforms that we know will never eventuate. However the ARC does not appear that they are going to take the softly-softly approach and so I fully expect that that poor saps sent will be ripped to pieces.

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Australian Royal Commision round 2

by no-zombie in

round two of the australian royal commission into institutional child abuse has all the makings of a very damaging event for the organization, if what is going to happen to the catholic church is any indication.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/royal-commission-most-catholic-archbishops-to-give-evidence/8240208.

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no-zombie

Unfortunately I would think that it's highly unlikely we'll see another Governing Body member in the stand here. Geoffrey Jackson was definite in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught out. They'll just let the local branch committee take the heat, for sure.

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Australian Royal Commision round 2

by no-zombie in

round two of the australian royal commission into institutional child abuse has all the makings of a very damaging event for the organization, if what is going to happen to the catholic church is any indication.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/royal-commission-most-catholic-archbishops-to-give-evidence/8240208.

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What's also interesting is the fact that we are getting another 'zone visit' by a GB helper at around the same time. Whether it is for the Royal Commission or not, who knows. But i wouldn't be surprised if the Australian Bethel is put on the market after this 'visit', when we remember that it was after the last one, that all printing done there was stopped. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Australian Royal Commision round 2

by no-zombie in

round two of the australian royal commission into institutional child abuse has all the makings of a very damaging event for the organization, if what is going to happen to the catholic church is any indication.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/royal-commission-most-catholic-archbishops-to-give-evidence/8240208.

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no-zombie

Round two of the Australian Royal Commission into institutional child abuse has all the makings of a very damaging event for the Organization, if what is going to happen to the Catholic Church is any indication.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/royal-commission-most-catholic-archbishops-to-give-evidence/8240208

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New here..help greatly appreciated

by Confusedandangry in

hi everyone i don't even know where to begin.

i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.

i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.

no-zombie

Hi Confusedandangry,

Don't worry too much about going crazy. We'll all lost our brain in the beginning. Just take your time and ask what ever questions you want. Here to serve. :)

No-zombie

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Why so few XJWs online?

by StephaneLaliberte in

not too long ago, i posted a topic where i pointed out that there are about 1 million xjws alive right now.

that number only represented the disfellowshipped ones... didn't account for those who had become publishers and left or anyone else who got hurt by that group by proxy.

so, why are there so few of them online?

no-zombie

There could be a number of reasons why ex-witnesses don't get involved. I expect that many don't even know of this place as they were too scared to look while they were still in. And being disfellowshiped on the common grounds of porniea, most probably just carry in their new life knowing that they will go back. Some I expect still want to return to the congregation, family and friends .. and are thus still 'believers'. Overcome by depression or physical tiredness, people might just not have the energy to do anything of importance at all. And others like Ray Franz, were or are, waiting for the Organization to reform before making their move. How many leave the Society without being pushed, because of their own conscience may actually be a quite small percentage too.

So perhaps the thousand or so members here, should be expected.

Yet I am convinced, we the few, who take to time to make meaning posts, hit above our weight in helping those who dare to look in through the window. And I'm sure that despite the fact the we may be viewed as complainers and malcontents, the Governing Body knows we exist and we are a pain in their side.

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The popularity fad of home-schooling!

by stuckinarut2 in

i know this has been discussed over the years on this forum, but i just had to post this again!.

it seems that the popular fad amongst the "spiritual" ones in the local circuits is to home school their children instead of sending them to school.. now to clarify, we are in a very nice area of semi rural australia .

one with very community minded, and strong family values.

no-zombie

I have to echo Finfelstein here. In Australia it take four years to graduate with a Bachelor of Education. How on earth can any one say that a stay-at-home parent can offer the same quality of teaching than that.

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India ... what's the latest?

by no-zombie in

we haven't heard much recently about india.

whats the current situation over there?

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Isn't funny how we've been told for years how the Brotherhood is the same all around the world; a wonderful example of unity and another evidence of God's blessing on the Society. But in reality I believe that The Truth doesn't change the nature of people at all, it has just collected a group of people with a similar mind set. So while I can't prove for myself that some in India pay-off the elders, I thinks it sounds right when I know that many local customs get covered over, so as not to upset or spoil the Witnesses' reputation. For example in a Nordic country, nude swimming and mixed sex naked saunas are tolerated. But of course, looking at pictures of naked people will get you disfellowshiped.

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India ... what's the latest?

by no-zombie in

we haven't heard much recently about india.

whats the current situation over there?

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no-zombie

We haven't heard much recently about India. Whats the current situation over there?

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New light in this weeks WT?

by Indian Larry in

anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?

for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.

in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.

no-zombie

My take on this weeks WT study article for what its worth, is that it was written to once again reinforce the new idea that the truth didn't really become the the truth until that 1918-1919 period as an attempt to distance themselves from Russel and his teachings ... and to continue establishing the legitimacy the establishment Governing Body arrangement. Interestingly, 'the death of the two witnesses' of Revelation 11 and the 'valley of dry bones' of Ezekiel 37, were not even referenced this time (as they would have been in the past), leading me to my conclusion that the time before 1918 didn't really count as much.