Posts by Jacqueline

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Elders will be here in 10 minutes...pray for me

by Jacqueline in

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elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long.

i want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that i can keep my strength against them!

!

Jacqueline

ok...update.

I stuck to my guns!! They requested I go out in service on SAT....I told them "No Way". My hubby agreed to go out in service...but that's ok...he will go and not go again for another year....as the world turns. My husband told the Elders that I had no desire to attend any meetings anymore. All they said was, "Sorry to hear that." FYI: My hubby grew up in the Truth and I am only a study.

I have never found elders to be hostile...as of yet. I hear the horror stories though and keep my guard out.

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers. Jehoveh really does answers prayers...even if you are not part of the society's organization!! I am learning quickly that what the society tells you about having to be Witness in order to be one of Jehovah's people...is just a tactic. A tactic to benefit the pockets of the WTS...not our personal relationshis with Jehovah.

Jehovah loves you no matter if you are in a society, group, solo, alone, etc. I do not need a group of "discreet slave" (who think they are better than everyone else) telling me how I should maintain my relationship with Jehovah...that is between Jehovah and I.

I have received more support from this board in 4-5 days than I have in 2 years being a part of the organization.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT. :)

Not with Sisterly love,

But with Christian love,

Jacqueline

Edited by - jacqueline on 24 January 2003 0:39:18

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Elders will be here in 10 minutes...pray for me

by Jacqueline in

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elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long.

i want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that i can keep my strength against them!

!

Jacqueline

Elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long. I want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that I can keep my strength against them!!

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A BIG VICTORY!!!!!--help she is trying..part 7

by Jesika in

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sorry it has taken this long to get to updating you all.

i have been celebrating our victory!!!

let me explain......................... .

Jacqueline

Family court....Guardian ad litem recommeded all holidays be with my children's father, cause I don't celebrate them, I have no rights to make any medical decisions......she recommended they be in father's custody....but I got them back 9 months later. all because i was studying with JW's. x is "worldly"

and all I am is a study...well used to be anyway....trying to get away.

Glad to hear things went well...can you tell me what state?

I am feverishly working on my case...no lawyer, I have no money...and i have a witch for an x-mom-in-law too.

Edited by - jacqueline on 23 January 2003 1:22:9

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quote search: recognize His people by their love

by Jacqueline in

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i am desperately searching fo rthe bible qoute which tells you that you shall recognize his people by the love amongst themselves.. i have not found any love amongst any witnesses in our hall, never ever...and we have attended this hall for nearly 2 years.

i am still a study, my hubby grew up in the truth.

elders are coming over tomorrow night to discuss our lack of meeting attendance.

Jacqueline

Yes, That is correct, I was only studying...haven't had a study in nearly 6 months, I would say. But I also do not want to be solidly straight with the Elders...not good to give them any reasons to counsel my husband about keeping his wife in "subjection"....so I will play it safe as possible. I will post here Friday morning and let you all know if I am strong enough to uphold myself against the elders and keep them at bay off my husband. I wish I could call them and cancel, I already offered that idea to hubby. He did not approve of that idea. He just wants to also pacify them enough to leave us alone for another 6 months. My husband has seen the treatment and knows exactly how I feel and does not feel that I am wrong. We have a wonderful marriage, we look out for each others interests. But he is not willing to "leave" the organization, I am sure due to his large JW family.

I brought up the fact of the UN conroversy last night with him and he was angry....he said NO WAY, and did not want to hear further info. So, he understands how I feel regarding the lack of association we receive, and does not care to go to meetings himself, but believes that the organization is "it"....so I gotta tread water at home medium. He is not willing to bend far enough to leave.

He says he has no motivation to go to meetings and does not know why. I know...he has no association, no encouragement, no happiness. he has not been out in service in over a year. In fact for the 2 years I have known him...he has been in service 2 times. So, I figure...give him time...he will hopefully stay away long enough to not want to ever go back.

He was previously married to a sister who got pregnant by a ministerial brother while being married to my husband. That REALLY threw him for a loop. I am surprised he even remarried.

Thanks for everything...you all have been quite supportive and helpful...very much appreciated and what I have been longing for in quite sometime.

Edited by - jacqueline on 22 January 2003 20:49:0

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quote search: recognize His people by their love

by Jacqueline in

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i am desperately searching fo rthe bible qoute which tells you that you shall recognize his people by the love amongst themselves.. i have not found any love amongst any witnesses in our hall, never ever...and we have attended this hall for nearly 2 years.

i am still a study, my hubby grew up in the truth.

elders are coming over tomorrow night to discuss our lack of meeting attendance.

Jacqueline

Thanks for the replies...yeah...they have come up with, "people are not perfect", but I have case scenario after case scenario examples. I am writing every negative example I have personally faced and every positive example....the negative examples outweigh the positive by 100-1. Fortunately, my husband has seen it all happen and agrees with me.

I am not worried about them threatening shunning....I wouldn't miss anything if they did shun me, I feel like I have been shunned from day 1.

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Fashion at the Kingdom Hall

by YellowLab in

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what are some of the fashion trends you've seen or worn at the hall?

any interesting stories to share?.

some i remember off the top of my head are tie bars, tie clips, polyester suits, wide ties... we used to have brothers who would "compete" with designer cologne like polo, etc.. the memorial was always a fashion show.. yellowlab

Jacqueline

I found that the conventions were the biggest fashion shows.

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quote search: recognize His people by their love

by Jacqueline in

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i am desperately searching fo rthe bible qoute which tells you that you shall recognize his people by the love amongst themselves.. i have not found any love amongst any witnesses in our hall, never ever...and we have attended this hall for nearly 2 years.

i am still a study, my hubby grew up in the truth.

elders are coming over tomorrow night to discuss our lack of meeting attendance.

Jacqueline

I am desperately searching fo rthe bible qoute which tells you that you shall recognize His people by the love amongst themselves.

I have not found ANY love amongst any Witnesses in our hall, NEVER EVER...and we have attended this hall for nearly 2 years. I am still a study, my hubby grew up in the Truth. Elders are coming over tomorrow night to discuss our lack of meeting attendance. I do not want to go to meetings any more...have no motivation...."where's the love?"

SO I felt that this may be a good quote to state my case!! Wish me luck!

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Getting over the "Imperfect Org" defe...

by confuzcious in

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hey guys,.

i was wondering if you have a response when you present stuff about pedo, un, rutherford, etc, and a jw says, "well they are imperfect people.. the last respons i got was, only jesus was ever the perfect channel of god - which of course i agree.. but it's like if you ever bring up anything about anything, the stock response is, "we'll it's an imperfect organization.... your response???.

Jacqueline

Keep asking the questions...please!! I am learning so very much. I need answers to get out. I need answers to help my husband see what the organization really is!! He grew up in the Truth and is still a JW, but has not attended meetings in a few months...Elders are coming over in 2 nights to discuss our lack of recent attendance. Please give me any info you have to help me defend myself...and get them to leave quickly!!

Edited by - jacqueline on 21 January 2003 20:21:22

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2 years later

by Jacqueline in

i met a jw man a little more than 2 years ago.

he grew up in the truth.

i was worldly.

Jacqueline

"I think it makes it that much harder to attend meetings when you hear from the platform how wonderful and loving the organization is."

Nina,

Exactly!! All we hear about is the close bond that each other has and the love that is shared amongst the organization and how "good association" is the only association allowed. How the congregation is there for you in time of need. I do not see any of that....and I have desperately searched for it.

I feel like many Witnesses are putting their faith in the organization and the discreet slave more than Jehovah. Is anyone ele seeing that also???

Confused, Frustrated, and Lonely

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2 years later

by Jacqueline in

i met a jw man a little more than 2 years ago.

he grew up in the truth.

i was worldly.

Jacqueline

I met a JW man a little more than 2 years ago. He grew up in the truth. I was worldly. I began studying 2 times a week and going to all 5 meetings. I couldn't have a copy of KM's, but was expected to attend the school anyway. I attended a separate hall than him, due to assumptions by the elders. 6 months later, I married the JW I met, even though I was not baptized yet. I had it sincere in my heart that it was the "truth" and continued feverishly studying 2-3 times a week on top of the 5 meetings...with baptismal as my goal.

Problems...We moved to a new city 3 hours away, immediately after our wedding. No one ever would include or invite me in any activities outside the Hall. (In either hall...the first hall that introduced me to the truth nor the second hall we are still in.) The sisters tell me of the wonderful time they all had at such and such baby shower, wedding shower, anniversary party, etc. Not one sister in over 2 years has ever stopped by my home to say "hi." (Other than when they are out in service and happen to be knocking on my neighbors door.) Not one sister in over 2 years have called me on the phone, to say "Hi." I studied solidly for 18 months and attended every meeting during that time. I begged to ride in a car group, so that I could have association. NO...never....declined every time!! Never got close to baptismal, no matter how much time I spent studying or went to meetings....I was never good enough. Attending 2 different halls 3 hours apart, they behaved the same way. I have never been counseled for any misappropriate things.

I have allowed all meetings to lapse in the past 3 months...well, you guessed it....they are pounding on our door several times a week now.

I told my husband..."You know...they can disassociate me, (their way of discipline is shunning) but it won't cause me any pain, and desire to return, becasue I never had the association to begin with. I am so tired of being lonely, with no one to speak to or to do things with."

By the way....I am very happily married, and do not regret marrying a JW.

Someone, please tell me if this has happened to you??????