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Posts by Tahoe
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What Do You Think Would Make A Witness Decide It Was Now Time To Leave The “Truth”?
by minimus inis there anything that will make that loyal witness ever see the light??
you know, that well respected elder, pioneer, or witness who has been in the “truth “ for decades..
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Tahoe
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Jesus in a Super Hero Cape
by iloowy.goowy inhave you see the latest fashion for jesus in the wt?.
he's sporting a cape, just like superman!maybe caleb can get a t-shirt with a j logo instead of an s.. .
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Tahoe
Where is Samuel Herd?
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I'd like to find a single female bible lover to read the Bible with me.
by littleyohane inbut i believe in jehovah god, and i read the bible every day.. i believe the bible is god's word.
and i pray to god every day.. it's somewhat off topic.
but i'd like to find a friend who loves the bible and want to read and find the truth of the bible together with me.. i live in japan and i am a japanese.
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Jehovah's Witnesses appeal $30 million jury awarded damages in sex abuse case
by Tahoe inthe jehovah's witnesses church has appealed the $30 million punitive damages award handed down by a jury to a thompson falls woman who claimed church officials covered up prior abuses by a congregation member who molested her for years.. .
the thompson falls congregation of jehovah's witnesses, along with the church's highest offices — called the watchtower bible and tract society of new york and the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses — filed its appeal brief last week with the state supreme court, noting the punitive damages award was one of the largest by a montana jury in the state's history.
the church asks the high court to overturn sanders county district judge james manley's pretrial ruling that the church was negligent went it failed to report earlier abuses by maximo reyes against a girl in the congregation.
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Tahoe
The Jehovah's Witnesses church has appealed the $30 million punitive damages award handed down by a jury to a Thompson Falls woman who claimed church officials covered up prior abuses by a congregation member who molested her for years.
The Thompson Falls congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, along with the church's highest offices — called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York and the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses — filed its appeal brief last week with the state Supreme Court, noting the punitive damages award was one of the largest by a Montana jury in the state's history.
The church asks the high court to overturn Sanders County District Judge James Manley's pretrial ruling that the church was negligent went it failed to report earlier abuses by Maximo Reyes against a girl in the congregation. Elders in Thompson Falls did "disfellowship" Reyes from the congregation but reinstated him about a year later, in June 2005.
After his return, Alexis Nunez, then an 8-year-old girl, would later tell elders Reyes sexually assaulted her on a near-weekly basis for the next two years.
The Missoulian typically does not name victims of sexual assault. Nunez, however, agreed to allow the Missoulian to use her name.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are also appealing Manley's ruling that Montana's statutory cap on punitive damages — which sets limits at $10 million or 3% of a defendant's net worth, whichever is less — is unconstitutional. The cap was set in place by the state Legislature, but Manley's ruling isn't the first to reject that maximum set by lawmakers. The argument has not yet been heard in the state Supreme Court, and could become the centerpiece of this case.
Attorneys for the church argue that eliminating that maximum violates the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the right to due process. Some states, including Washington, don't even allow punitive damages. In this case, Nunez was awarded $4 million in compensatory damages, then another $31 million in punitive damages. Attorneys for the church in their appeal called the punitive damage amount "staggering," "excessive," "shocking" and "unlawful."
Cynthia Ford, law professor who teaches a remedies class at the University of Montana's Alexander Blewett III School of Law, said punitive damages can make an example out of bad actors and wealthy institutions.
"Punitive damages are not very often awarded so it's a really high standard to even get them," Ford said. The idea is basically "to prevent them from doing the same thing again and to serve as a lesson to other similarly situated defendants. It's sending a warning."
The argument against the cap, she said, is that it would violate the Sixth Amendment rights of the plaintiff. When a jury hashes out what damages the defendant owes the plaintiffs, they are not told or instructed to keep it under that cap; they're not even told about it. So if a jury awards an amount higher than that cap, but the statute reduces the amount, that can be argued as a violation of a person's right to a jury trial.
Tort reforms to limit or eliminate such punitive damages, Ford said, have been propelled largely by insurance companies for the last 30 or 40 years.
Montana lawmakers, Ford said, came up with a compromise. After setting the cap, the statute allows punitive damages "for the purpose of punishing a defendant," but only in certain cases, and not in cases of breach of contract, for example. As to where to draw the line on punitive damages, in light of dueling constitutional rights — "That's the issue the Montana Supreme Court is going to look at," Ford said.
In the other part of the appeal, attorneys for the Jehovah's Witnesses say they should not have been found negligent, because they they could not have violated Montana's mandatory reporter statute because church elders are not mandatory reporters when such information is offered in confession.
When church elders first learned of Reyes' abuses in 2004, Reyes was confronted by the elders and subsequently disfellowshipped after admitting to the abuses. He was reinstated a year later, and in 2012 elders learned Nunez had been abused for years.
Attorneys for Nunez argued last year that the confessional exception to the mandatory reporter law shouldn't apply here, because Reyes was not in confession when he admitted to the abuses.
But the church argues in its appeal that its legal department at Watchtower, the church's headquarters in New York, had looked into state law and determined that Montana's mandatory reporting law didn't apply to this case because they only learned of Reyes' abuses years after he had committed them. At the time, no one was in immediate danger, so Watchtower attorneys told the elders in Thompson Falls to deal with the matter internally.
Critics of the church's policy said the Thompson Falls ruling was another example in the Jehovah's Witnesses' worldwide reckoning in covering up sexual abuse within its keep. By the church's own policy, reports of abuse are to be forwarded to the legal department in the church's highest office, which in turn directs congregation elders to conduct proceedings internally and not report these crimes to authorities.
The second part of policy criticized by authorities, attorneys in this case and former church members is the "two-witness rule," which requires an allegation of abuse to be bolstered by two witnesses before leadership takes any action.
This rule is taken from scripture.
"Christ Jesus establishes that there has to be two witnesses," senior church official Gary Breaux said in a morning worship video posted online. "We will never change our scriptural position on that subject."
Nunez's attorneys have 60 days to file their response brief with the state Supreme Court.
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Inside The Lost Tunnels Under Brooklyn Heights
by Tahoe inhttps://youtu.be/l9e7nkzhyt4.
from this article:.
http://gothamist.com/2019/05/22/brooklyn_heights_tunnels_jehovahs_witnesses.php#photo-1.
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Tahoe
This is the first I heard of these tunnels.
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Anyone notice how only some JWs are on FB or social media
by rockemsockem ini notice only about half the people i knew in the borg are on social media.
anyone else notice this?.
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Tahoe
I noticed about two years ago, that my pimi siblings are no longer using Facebook.
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Inside The Lost Tunnels Under Brooklyn Heights
by Tahoe inhttps://youtu.be/l9e7nkzhyt4.
from this article:.
http://gothamist.com/2019/05/22/brooklyn_heights_tunnels_jehovahs_witnesses.php#photo-1.