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STARVE THE PUBLIC

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starve the public!

jehovahs witnesses went door to door this year to hand out invitations to their deliverance at hand conventions.

only watchtower would invite the general public to their conventions and have pre-arranged to shut down the concessions so the attending few public would starve.

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Go to the convention and see it for yourself.

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if you can acccurately disprove the mathematics in the following i will be at the local kingdom hall first thing in the morning and ask the elders if i may rejoin them in worship.. here is some information i have compiled regarding what the watchtower has printed in regards to the babylonian kings and how the lengths of their reigns can be calculated to arrive at the date of the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar.

if you're like me you've probably remained totally clueless whenever the subject of the chronology leading to back 607 b.c.

as the date for the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar comes up.

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Don't know what to make of this scholar person. Is he'she really braindead or just playing?

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WHAT DOES THE WORD...."SOON"....MEAN???

by Terry in

the watchtower magazine has used the word "soon" on many an occasion to point out to its readership how near armageddon really is.. a word that can mean anything, in effect, actually means nothing.

consequently, let's examine what "soon" actually means by definition and use.. there can only be three stages of time:.

wouldn't you agree with that?

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ELDER: Brother, the elders have noticed that you don't go in service. When are you going to start?

BROTHER: Soon.

ELDER: We have also noticed that you don't contribute money anymore. When are are you going to start?

BROTHER: Soon.

ELDER: Also, you have a load of magazines to be picked up. When are you going to do that?

BROTHER: Soon.

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STARVE THE PUBLIC

by apocalypse in

starve the public!

jehovahs witnesses went door to door this year to hand out invitations to their deliverance at hand conventions.

only watchtower would invite the general public to their conventions and have pre-arranged to shut down the concessions so the attending few public would starve.

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"is there some sort of charitable tax relief advantage or stadium discount to making conventions open to the public?"

Now that's a thought....? I wonder, just wonder.

This I do know. I am saving all my Tim Horton coffee cups and bags and wrappers etc. to dump at the convention. I will take my Burger King garbage and stuff a Watchtower convention program inside and dump it here and there.

I will make sure the vendors know we ate out. That should grind them when they have to cut a cheque to The AUD management for the franchise fee that they aren't making any profit from.

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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders- Part 2

by enlightenedcynic in

thanks for all of the kind words and advice, i appreciate it greatly and will look to use some of it.

a special thank you to both cal and vitty for their pm's which gave me a different perspective to look from.. so the p.o.

meets with us in one of the back rooms and my wife starts to speak.

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I was in almost the exact situation. My wife was hounding me and was practically at a breakup. She made clear that the borg came first and I was down the list.

Today, my wife posts on this board (wannaexit) and we are fake dubs.

Until the old folks die or something, we put on the appearance for their sake.

Show the face at meetings and FS where needed to make it look good, but do what you want otherwise.

If you want to know the way to where we are today, mail me [email protected]

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STARVE THE PUBLIC

by apocalypse in

starve the public!

jehovahs witnesses went door to door this year to hand out invitations to their deliverance at hand conventions.

only watchtower would invite the general public to their conventions and have pre-arranged to shut down the concessions so the attending few public would starve.

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Starve the public!

Jehovah’s Witnesses went door to door this year to hand out invitations to their “Deliverance At Hand” conventions.

Only Watchtower would invite the general public to their conventions and have pre-arranged to shut down the concessions so the attending few public would starve.

And then place men at the doors to discourage leaving.

Voice your disgust.

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A Tale Of Two Cities ......(if you read it, don't complain about it)

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once upon a time there were two cities.

now as it was in those days, these cities were lawless.

each man did as he pleased and according to how each one himself wished without regard for his neighbor.

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I am reading the responses. Most interesting.

As far as when he is coming...

The feet of Daniel's image represent the western powers of iron being diluted with the clay of immigration.

Immigration leads to terrorism and internal weakness.

So if you follow, not the Watchtower's fabrication, but the true meaning of the image, then you must realize that Jesus is coming.

And he will get rid of watchtowerisms idol worship.

When he comes, it will be swift.

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A Tale Of Two Cities ......(if you read it, don't complain about it)

by apocalypse in

once upon a time there were two cities.

now as it was in those days, these cities were lawless.

each man did as he pleased and according to how each one himself wished without regard for his neighbor.

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A Tale of Two Cities

Once upon a time there were two cities. Now as it was in those days, these cities were lawless. Each man did as he pleased and according to how each one himself wished without regard for his neighbor. So the call went out and it was decided upon that each of these two cities should receive a governor.

Into the first city there came a governor, arriving in his sleek white limousine, and he assumed the office and began his work. He had a seal of authority and a policing act with which he would enforce his policy.

Following him were his ministers. Arriving in a red limousine was his minister of armaments who assumed his position and began to make war on the citizens and would randomly kill as many as he chose so that many died. Following him also was his minister of finance, arriving in a black limousine, and he also began his work. He caused inflation to increase such that the citizenry could not afford food and shelter, and many more died for want. And still another minister arrived, his minister of health and welfare. He arrived in his sickly pale limousine and went straight about the task. He spread disease of all sorts, and even the animal kind he turned to devouring of man's flesh, and many more died in sicknesses of all sorts. And closely following him came the grave digger who set about collecting the dead.

The second of the two cities also received into it a governor. He arrived also in a white limousine but bearing the insignia of the highest office, as he was sent directly from the capital. He came duly appointed with all credentials and wearing the cloak of a governor, covered in medals earned with his own blood. This governor was proven as good, fair and just. He also made war, but only upon those who would harm their fellowman. He did so by means of his multitude of soldiers, each one in their own white limousine. Out they stepped, each one dressed in a white suit, clean and bright. This governor spoke with power and great authority and he brought justice to the city.

This story is true and these two cities are but one.

Are you still wondering as to the meaning? The answer is quite plain. Happy is he who reads it out loud. This is the greatest war story ever told and it takes place tomorrow, yesterday and today. The city is the world and the second governor defeats the first.

The apocalypse of John tells the tale as the Lord himself reveals the answer. In the Revelation to John numbered by man as chapter 6 we read that Jesus "the Lamb opened one of the seven seals" and the rider on the white horse is told to "Come!"

This would-be governor sits atop a white horse. Is he righteous? He is allowed his measure of authority as we are told he has "a crown". He enforces his authority by means of a "bow" allowed him, a carnal weapon of a man, and his way is made open to go "forth conquering" to "complete his conquest". Yet this governor does not ride alone.

The white horse of the four is closely followed by a red horse, minister of arms, and its rider wields "a great sword". This great sword is the manifestation of the power symbolized by the "bow" possessed by the rider on the white horse. The test begins. Does the conqueror justly ride a white horse? Are his ministers who follow righteous?

The rider on the red horse takes "peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another...". History is replete with men who would climb on top of their white horse and attempt their version of 'righteous conquest'. Their rides are always the same, marked by bloody warfare and indiscriminate killing as the red horse always follows closely behind the white. But wait, John describes further the results of the "conquest" of the rider of this “white horse". Yet another facet of his ride is revealed.

Welcome the rider on the black horse, minister of finance. With the "pair of scales in his hand" he causes economic distress, the inevitable outcome of war and attempts to 'complete a conquest'. The result of his work is "a quart of wheat for a de·nar´i·us" or a day's pay for a day's bread, bare subsistence.

Finally comes the Minster of health and welfare who rides a pale horse.

His name is given to us, "Death". He kills as many as he can with the remaining tools of "deadly plague" and "wild beasts", common friends of war.

And Ha´des, an open grave, was closely following him to collect the fallen.

For the bulk of man's history, the Four Horsemen can be found galloping "over the fourth part of the earth" according to their "authority".

John tells of the horses that follow closely behind the ride of the white...

And authority was given them over the fourth part

(a quarter) of the earth, to (the Red Horse) kill with a long sword and (the Black Horse) with food shortage and (the Pale Horse) with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Another White horse comes hither, the second. In the Revelation to John numbered by man as chapter 19 we read of a white horse that does not issue from iniquity, but rather is approved by God. John relates that "the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse" . This second White horse differs from the first as it issues from heaven itself. Unlike the first white horse, the rider of this White horse is "called Faithful and True" and in contrast with the first, this rider "judges and carries on war in righteousness." He does not use corporal means to carry on battle as if possessing a bow in the likeness of the first, for"His eyes are a fiery flame". His power is granted to be within him and issues from God. His authority is superlative.

In contrast to the lowly "crown" on the rider of the first, the Lord has on his head "many diadems" of splendor. Like a well decorated general with a uniform full of medals, "he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood", his own blood poured out on behalf of mankind. Unlike the counterfeit on the first white horse, Jesus has earned the right to sit on a White horse. He is the "Word of God".

Who follows this righteous warrior on the second White horse? John writes that "the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen". What a stark contrast with the riders who followed the counterfeit first white horse! Whereas the first rider came forth and left in his wake war, suffering and death for a quarter of the Earth, the contrasting ride of the "Word of God", who "upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords." will, by means of the "sharp long sword" that "protrudes" ..."out of his mouth",..."strike the nations" and "shepherd them with a rod of iron".

The White horse out of heaven goes on to destroy the white horse of four, casting him "into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur".

The Lord showed to John with these two horses the difference between rule by man, and rule by Christ. Mankind has not the authority nor power to ride a white horse. Only the one He chooses, who has earned the right may ride righteously.

John began his words with the phrase "Happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near." And why not be happy, for John here describes the difference between the man rule we suffer under and the God rule soon to replace it.

No better time than now is there to have such a superlative example of the white horse of four, with his accompanying ministers, as in the example of the leaders of the West who sally forth on their white horse in the middle East to complete their conquest.

But wo is he who would tinker with these words, for John finished his prophecy with the warning. "If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things which are written about in this scroll."

Who is it that has added and taken away, but the one who it is that says 'it is the Lord himself who rides the counterfeit first white horse of four'. Death will come to this one, who goes to the houses saying Jesus rides the white horse of the four. This is the one who has added to God's revelation and taken away the glory due the King of kings and Lord of lords by seating Him on the white horse of four in the minds of men. Cursed may he be. This one will be cut down in the broad way as if cattle under the butcher's blade.

He comes swiftly ...

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WTS vs Quotes: Requiem for a Research Web Site

by Quotes in

in compliance with the terms of a settlement agreement, my information and research web site, http://quotes.watchtower.ca, is now "dark".

the domain "watchtower.ca" has been transferred to wts (i assume they will have it pointing to borg.org watchtower.org asap).

my copies of the site have been destroyed, the files deleted, and my wt library cd has been destroyed, in accordance with the settlement agreement which will afford a "discontinuance" of their suit against me.

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Thanks Peter for all your hard work. Kudos to you.

Recently, I sat and listened to Ken Little as he addressed the elders. I half listened to him and half thought about this on-going struggle.

I know Ken Little is listening today, and I want him to pay careful attention to what I say directly to him now.

Dearest Ken

The Watchtower Society has spent a lifetime setting up this glorious organization as a mirrored replica of, not Christianity, but rather the Jewish system.

I want you, Ken, to know with what proximity you came recently to getting your reward.

If the Watchtower’s brainwash had succeeded in convincing me that we are not in the Christian era, but rather in the Watchtower’s repeat Jewish era, then I, viewing you for what you are, an apostate, would have zealously completed my national obligation against your skinny carcass.

If you are sitting behind your big oak desk right now, then lift your skinny arm and reach into your drawer. Extract your bible. Read Deuteronomy 13:12-17 and see how I view your Satanic attempt to make me serve the Watchtower IDOL.

Read Leviticus 27:29b and take a deep breath knowing you have fewer of them remaining today then you had when first we met.

I do not need to lift my hand against you, for “Already the ax is lying at the root of the trees“. . .Matthew 3:10

Your time has almost arrived. Don’t choke on your sandwich.

Your Humble Slave

The info at Quotes and others will always continue to prosper and grow.

Add to it my recent recordings of dear Ken Little as he addressed the elders in closed session. Clips soon to be available.

If someone wants to host these clips, pm me.

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The "faithful slave" truth or lie?

by apocalypse in

so then, as we examine the context of these verses we ask the question "when?".

42 "...you do not know on what day your lord is coming.

44 ...at an hour that you do not think to be it, the son of man is coming.

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Couldn't help but think of this thread as I sat and listened to Ken Little go on and on about the ' wonderful' ..."faithful slave"

What a piece of work that little worm is.

Watchtower.... the new apostacy.