Posts by fjtoth
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1380The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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fjtoth
3rd_W,
Now here Frank is making another exception. Why frank?
The difference is that 1 Corinthians 15 specifically says there is an "exception." It even uses the word. So, the reason why "Frank" makes an exception is because the Bible writer says so. Now, let's see the WT Society show us where a Bible writer spells out that Christ received more authority in 1914 than he already possessed from the time of his exaltion to the Father's right hand.
If Christ received greater authority in 1914 than he already had, we must assume that his authority became greater than the Father's. That is not what JWs teach, but that is the logical conclusion that must be reached on the basis of their 1914 heresy.
Frank
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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fjtoth
There is nothing new or shocking here. The disciples had a wrong opinion at the time, an opinion that was later corrected after the Holy Spirit was poured out upon them and they progressed in knowledge and understanding.
My, what a poor teacher Jesus must have been! According to the context in Acts 1, he spent over a month discussing nothing but the Kingdom with the apostles -- 40 days!!! And still they had "a wrong opinion." " To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, being seen by them throughout forty days and telling the things about the kingdom of God." (Acts 1:3, NW)
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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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fjtoth
Thirdwitness,
"All authority" means "all authority" with one exception: "'For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.' But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him." (1 Cor. 15:27, NW) Surely you were aware of this clear explanation of what "all authority" means!
Frank
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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fjtoth
Look He's off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz. AlanF just keeps on making the same old tired, boring, and strawman arguments that have already been shown to be ridiculous. Another embarrassing display by AlanF. So much so that your friends have begin to totally ignore the subject and write about other things. But I will give him this: He is the master at ignoring the guidelines of this DB and coming forth with all sorts of name calling. Oh, but its justified because he is so patient with the posters who disagree with him until finally it comes to the point where the only thing to do is name call.
This is just more nonsense from 'thirdwit__'. The "same old tired, boring, and strawman arguments" are coming to us from the WT defenders, not from AlanF. Some of the rest of us may get off topic now and then, but you can be sure we are not ignoring AlanF's masterful rebuttal of WT silliness, blindness and arrogance.
Frank
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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fjtoth
Jehovah’s Witnesses borrowed it from Adventists.
Actually, they borrowed it from the "Second Adventists," not the "Seventh-Day Adventists." More precisely, the Watchtower STOLE instead of borrowing since they give credit to Russell instead of the true originators of the silly chronology concept.
Frank
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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VM44,
On the "1914 Generation" Watchtower cover, who is the man in the upper right hand corner?
That's John Errichetti. He was a missionary in Alaska who got called to Brooklyn due to health problems, I believe.
Frank
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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Gymbob,
Ever have lunch with Gangas at a bethel table?
Yes, many times, though I tried to avoid him. He always had a question 'to test your knowledge' -- a question that he just asked you the last time he saw you, even if it was only the day before. Or, he had some remarks that greatly exaggerated how wonderful it was to be "in the truth" and especially at Bethel.
Frank
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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1380
The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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fjtoth
Can anyone (or everyone) pick out the GB member on that cover???
Martin Poetzinger is in the lower left, and George Gangas is the second from the right at the top.