Posts by fjtoth

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WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

by A-Team in

nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

by A-Team in

nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

by A-Team in

nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

fjtoth

Wayne,

After following a few of your links all you can offer is about a couple dozen murders and violent crimes spread over decades, committed by people not following Watchtower doctrine. The JWs doctrines do not teach murder or rape. These people were acting on there own. And one was not a JW at the time. He was a lunatic who thought he was Christ!

Your argument is the same as the reasoning of JWs: "Oh, we don't have murderers, rapists, pedophiles and other criminals in our midst. We have a clean organization because we disfellowship such people!" JWs seem unable to acknowledge that all those bad people were JWs "at the time" they committed their evil deeds! They were disfellowshiped after the fact, not before.

"One was not a JW at the time" is an admission on your part that the rest were JWs "at the time" they committed murder!

It doesn't explain what this refers to but I got the impression you were using this to pad your numbers. Correct me if I'm wrong. This # isn't about blood transfusions. When I find a scanner I will post pg 31 which has real figures - 1050 dead and 3850 infected with AIDS due to blood tranfusions. That was 1994. Project to 2007 and do the arithmetic.

Talk about "padding" numbers! It's true that, sadly, a few thousand died from blood transfusions, but MILLIONS did not! On the other hand, the MAJORITY of Jehovah's Witnesses who have rejected needed transfusions have died! If most people were like JWs in refusing blood, there would very likely be millions dying around the world every year! In other words, blood transfusions, mainly in the past, were responsible for the deaths of a few thousand, but THEN and TODAY they have saved and are saving the lives of MILLIONS!

Frank

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WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

by A-Team in

nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

fjtoth

Wayne L,

Frank - You are really testing my patience.

Could it be your patience is being tested because the truth hurts?

The JWs doctrines do not teach murder or rape. These people were acting on there own.

But I thought you said JWs don't murder. When I show you that they do, you change your position. Now, instead of saying they don't murder, you say they are not TAUGHT to murder. Tsk! Tsk!

Frank

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WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

by A-Team in

nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

fjtoth

This is how the Watchtower Society murders its own people:

The Japan Times Online

Thursday, June 21, 2007 Jehovah's Witness shuns blood, dies OSAKA (Kyodo) A member of the Jehovah's Witnesses died last month after giving birth by Caesarean section and refusing a blood transfusion, officials at Osaka Medical College reported.

The hospital said it had agreed with the woman before the surgery that it would not administer a transfusion.

Although she bled a great deal after delivering the child, doctors only took steps to arrest the hemorrhaging. She died several days later, the hospital said.

"We briefed her about the danger (before the surgery) and we repeatedly urged her family to accept a blood transfusion. But in the end we respected the patient's wishes," a hospital official said Tuesday.

Jehovah's Witnesses' officials said the hospital acted appropriately in treating the woman in accordance with her wishes.

Members of the denomination refuse blood transfusions as being against the Bible, citing the section in Leviticus that reads: "Whatsoever man . . . eats any manner of blood, I will cut him off from among his people."

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WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

by A-Team in

nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

fjtoth

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WTS hasn't corrected mistakes in NWT on John 20:28.....

by A-Team in

nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .

28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!

29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?

fjtoth

Wayne L,

According to the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance:

Possibly 1,455 JW Women Died Between 1995 and 2006 Due to Refusing Blood

According to the May 22, 1994 issue of Awake!, page 2:

"In former times thousands of youths died for putting God first. They are still doing it, only today the drama is played out in hospitals and courtrooms, with blood transfusions the issue."

The truth is that JW youths are dying because they and/or their parents are putting the Watchtower Society first, and God last!

Frank

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