Posts by Marcos

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Feel Like Cryin'

by mackey in

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well, my best friend sarah, the love of my life, has deemed me a bad association.

just when i thought i could get her out those bastards sucked her right back in.

i know by starting this thread i'm beggin' for a flaming, but this is very serious and need some support and this is the only place that i can get it.

Marcos

Mackey,

It's tough and so frustrating. It actually hurts physically. Your heart actually hurts.

You cannot think rationally at the moment. I think Wheelwithinawheel made a very good point:

Maybe you should give it some time. And then be real gentle. Don't make her feel you're pushing her. Don't even mention the WT again. If you ever get together again be a good friend. Show her a good time. Get her interested in things other than religion.

We have a certain pride. If anyone questions a decision we have made on the scale of a life choice, in particularly religion, we get offended. After all, can't you see that I have the TRUTH? My experience is that you can't convince anyone that they are wrong. You must have superhuman patience.

If she really loves you, nothing will stop her from coming back to you. You must wait. Torture, I know. And if and when she does come back, you might be better off not bringing up the topic of religion. If she asks, answer. But make it short and decline to go into it. Live by example. She must convince herself.

Look, she knows what you think by now. If she is reasonable she will see that her religion is wrong, sooner or later. Make it a non-issue. Just be there and love her.

It is difficult, I know but take your time and don't push. However, maintain your own integrity. Don't change for her. Respect yourself.

Hoping the best for you,

Marcos

Edited by - marcos on 14 February 2003 12:17:46

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A Royal Pain!

by Marcos in

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they are internet messenger advertisements and arrive about once an hour.

these messages arrive over the internet if i leave the connection on, which i do all the time for business reasons.

if i am working in another program, i have to attend to closing these messages before i can go back to work.

Marcos

Thanks Ed and Francois.

I changed the settings per Ed's instructions and haven't had anymore pop-ups for the last couple of hours. I think that took care of it.

Marcos

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A Royal Pain!

by Marcos in

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they are internet messenger advertisements and arrive about once an hour.

these messages arrive over the internet if i leave the connection on, which i do all the time for business reasons.

if i am working in another program, i have to attend to closing these messages before i can go back to work.

Marcos

Has anyone else been getting anything like this?

They are Internet Messenger advertisements and arrive about once an hour.

These messages arrive over the Internet if I leave the connection on, which I do all the time for business reasons. If I am working in another program, I have to attend to closing these messages before I can go back to work.

I HATE IT!!!

Id call the company collect in the USA but I know they will refuse the call. Any idea how this can be stopped?

Advice welcome

Marcos

P.S. I wanted to attach the screen captures of the stupid ads but cant figure out how to embed a picture. Any help on that? Thanks.

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I'm Such A Smoothie.

by Englishman in

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it's true.

i have hardly any hair on my body at all.

i once took weeks trying to grow a beard and tash, after 6 months i shaved it off and her ladyship didn't even notice.

Marcos

I'm sorry, SheilaM but I just had to comment.

my Thunder can't grow a beard but is a hairy dud LOL wasn't when we married though

I never got the impression he was a DUD! Hang in there, I'm sure he WANTS to improve

Marcos (of the smooth dude class)

P.S. My computer can't spell worth a darn either!

13

My JW Folks

by CraigSA in

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so now they have branded me an apostate and not fit to talk to, they have never met their 1 and 2 year old grandchildren and are smeering my name all over the place because i wont send thm pictures and let my wife email them with information on whats going on in my family...my outlook is simple...either they except my whole family including me or they can put the fact that they have a son and daughter-in-law and two grandchildren out of their minds...but now i am starting to doubt that...whats everyones thoughts?

Marcos

Craig,

Looks like you have gotten a lot of good advice here. Mostly, I say, "Me too" to what is said here.

I would only like to add that you need to assess your unique situation as regards your relationship with your parents. Only you know how they will probably react to anything you do or say. Consider your course of action and then proceed.

I would, by all means, say to my parents (in your place) that they accept all of us or none of us. There is an expression people used to use in the south (of the US), "like me, like my dog." You and your family are a unit. You are not in subjection to your parents. You owe them respect however, that has its limits. The honorable thing is to love them but set limits as to how much influence they can have in YOUR family. You and your wife must set the rules for your house, not your parents.

If your parents are cruel, don't let them have contact with you, your wife or your children. You have to protect your wife and children. Your mom and dad undoubtedly love you. But don't be blackmailed. If you talk to them, reaffirm your love for them. But set the terms under which they may have access to you and your family. You also need and have a right to be loved.

I hope it all works out well for you. Keep us posted

Marcos

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Latest recruitment effort in NYC

by Patriot in

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changing the channels last night, i came accross the spanish broadcasting station- "telemundo".. they were airing a commercial made by the jdubs!

the narrator asked the viewer if they were feeling depressed due to the recent changes and threats that we live under and pointed to the bible as the only way out of these troubled times.. of course it then pointed to visiting your local congo., accepting a visit of the dibs or calling a 1-888 number that i didnt get because i was so perplexed.. i talked to my mom today being that she is always watching the spanish soap operas and she said that those commercials have been airing alot lately and that there are several different ones.. she said there is even one showing a disitrict convention in progress and it gave the # again.

she said she called (she used to be a dub also and was curious) and that the person she spoke to said that they were not aware of any commercials airing.. i asked her if it was the society that answered the phone but she did'nt know.. funny how they would use "satans eye" to promote their cause.. .

Marcos

Thanks Gopher.

Problem is, Bablefish pretty much sucks. It's translations into Spanish don't make much sense. Here is an alternative translation:

Me parece que los de los Silent Lambs deben cerciorarse que tengan una version en espanol.

Obviamente creen que pueden salir con la suya esta vez (los Testigos de Jehova).

Debemos aprender como decir en espanol que son muy malos los Testigos de Jehova, pedofilos, demasiados crimenes sexuales, y que son muy malos para los ninos y para las familias los Testigos de Jehova.

Respectfully,

Marcos

Edited because accented words don't print out on this site right now.

Edited yet again because of missing letters in the words.

Edited by - marcos on 11 February 2003 22:48:36

Edited by - marcos on 11 February 2003 22:51:36

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Persecution of JWs in Israel

by Asylum Researcher in

i'm researching the question of whether a jw would have reason to fear persecution in israel.

i'd appreciate any info either supporting or refuting such persecution.

thanks.

Marcos

Who cares?

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WARNING! The Elders are coming.....!

by Sparks in

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hi gang.

if you live in england, be exspecting a call this month from the elders of your local kingdom hall if you have been dissfellowshiped,dissociated yourself or had any contact with the congregation in the past.....no it`s not coz they want their mouldy old books back; it`s some special effot ordered from bethel to get you back.....( obviously because their numbers have crashed since that panarama program last year,`suffer little chidren).

i was out shopping, when an elder from my local kingdom hall rugby tackled me.the sod had me cornered in a shop doorway for ten minutes...he told me that this special effort is for febuary only, and because he said it`s come down from bethel, i assume it`s only england.

Marcos

I'd so much love a "shepherding call". But, alas, I've already scared them off. No one here, in Tapachula, Mexico, knows my name (among the witnesses). So, when they have called before I have told them many times that I want nothing to do with them and when they ask why I tell them I spent my 4 years in Bethel and had my eyes opened.

One or 2 have tried to "reason" with me but I am adamant. Told a group of 3 once (I think one was the CO) that I wasn't interested and when the CO asked why I told him that it was because they are false prophets. The look on the face of the two young guys was priceless. One of the other guys looked like he wanted to smash me in the face. He didn't. I AM known here for being a martial arts teacher. It's Aikido. I dont ever hit people and they don't hit me. (They are also intimidated because everyone has seen the Steven Segal movies. ; I'm not a fan but the reputation doens't hurt!) Nevertheless, they left peacably enough. Even shook my hand! Well, that's Mexico. We try to maintain the peace whenever possible.

Still, I wish they would come one more time. Problem is, they seem to be intimidated. Moreover, they don't know my name. Highly doubtful they would ever find out who I am. Heh, heh.

Marcos

Edited by - marcos on 9 February 2003 13:41:17

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A Growing Irritant

by Inkie in

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more and more lately when i have occasion to read any of the society's publications or any postings here at this site which quote the society's publications i find more and more lately that i become really irritated, annoyed, chafing, at the redundant phrase "anointed christians.

" it just irritates the hell out of me.

i don't necessarily understand the "why" of this annoyance only that i recognize that i have it.

Marcos

HAPPIFYING.

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HYPNOTISM AT THE KH!

by TR in

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can hypnotism be accomplished on an unsuspecting person without the flashy methods used by those we've seen on tv?

has anyone here been hypnotised?

i've tried self-hypnosis, but i can't seem to find a good quiet time except for late evening, then i'm too tired and fall asleep.

Marcos

Seven006,

Thanks for the info. I have very little experience in the area. I went to a hypnotist once. I was interested in being hypnotized in order to access a foriegn language that I had spoke well in the past. I had to be a translator for a specific event. Can't say I was hypnotized. Results were virtually non-existant and I remember the whole session. I should state that I WANTED TO BE HYPNOTIZED.

I guess it is true that people with a lower I.Q. can't be hypnotized (or is it the other way around?) I am convinced of programming. As has been mentioned, almost all of us here have direct experience in the area. I guess my doubt is more along the lines of what hypnotizm really is.

I am aware of what many people say and write about it and about how it can be induced. I just wonder if what we are talking about are essentially the same thing.

Thanks for the response.

Marcos