JT I am new in here and I can't tell if your comments are in response to me or not. If they are they are totally uncalled for. I didn't accuse anyone of being against or for Pat and her choices I merely shared my thoughts on the situation....anyone can believe or support whatever they want to. I don't really care I just wanted to share what I know and how I feel about it.
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Ted Jaracz - the accused
by Nathan Natas inat the silentlambs march in brooklyn ny on september 27, 2002 a woman made a public statement which began, .
i'm pat garza, and i'm here today because i was raped by theodore jaracz when i was a little girl, in the city of los angeles, he was district servant.
there are two boys; their initials are "m.v.
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Ted Jaracz - the accused
by Nathan Natas inat the silentlambs march in brooklyn ny on september 27, 2002 a woman made a public statement which began, .
i'm pat garza, and i'm here today because i was raped by theodore jaracz when i was a little girl, in the city of los angeles, he was district servant.
there are two boys; their initials are "m.v.
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Just found this thread and realize that probably no one will see this but I feel the need to post regarding it anyway.
Pat and I have been best friends for 11 years now and I would like to shed some light on her motivation for speaking out at the march in NY. When I met Pat she was in the infant stages of understanding, facing, and resolving issues brought on by being raised by parents practicing ritual abuse and worship of Satan. Her abuse started in the womb and continued on into her teen years. At arround 10 or so she was introduced to JW's and sought immediate sanctuary within the organization only to see unbelieveably to her own eyes that they.....These people who religiusly worship Satan and had practiced, correographed, horrible unspeakable things against her mind and body were not only in the ranks of JW's but some as in the case of Ted Jaracz had high position there.
So after many years of struggling to accept the things she was remembering, to do what she could to heal the mind and body and struggle to survive and accept herself for who she is dispite "Their attempts to break her"... what we saw in NYor heard about if you weren't there was not a concern for law suite, not a concern for the right image, not a concern for our belief in expressed words or the very experience she claims to have survived: but an attempt to (as affectively as she could) to face Ted Jaracz and say "I will not be silent", I will tell publicly what you did, I will expose you for the vile person you are and I will tell of the society hiding within the organization.
Prior to her trip to NY and face off with Ted Jacacz, Pat learned she has terminal cancer. So Yes , she was fragile and yes, emotions were flying, and she doesn't give a damn about the law suits, etc. She just wanted to expose that bastard and fullfill a promise she made to him and to other lil children suffering the same. She would grow up and she would some day be strong enough to "break the silence" and as mimily said on one of her posts about killing her cat in front of her.....the measures they used to silence her were no small thing.
I wrote a poem in honor of my friend an any who relate:
The child
The child is born despite her choice
Long since this was the plan
Who is this evil woman who helps this evil man
Shes born with scars already formed
No healing in near sight
No sweet hellos
No hugs of warmth
No dreams for her at night
How does she live
How does she fight
She knows it is in vain
How can she breath and hold out hope while suffering all this pain
How come she sees that no one cares
Or even worse those few who dare
Does no one notice
No one see
For her what is reality
Is there no hope to set her free
From suffering all this misery
Theres so much blood and broken bones
There must be clues to see
But all is covered up real fast it seems quite masterfully
Shes turned to those supposed to help
Not knowing theyre involved
This only makes such matters worse
All hope is soon dissolved
How can this be my world alone
How has it come to be
Amazing even unto her she somehow does break free
She spends the next years fighting hard to mend her broken mind
The journey now to seek her place
True peace for her to find
MTB
Dedicated to my friend
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God has never failed me ...
by CoolBreeze injust wanted to share this personal thought.
god has never failed me, but every religion has.. .
god has always been eternal.
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mebeme
Hubby needs the puter......Civilization game......Rule the world kind of stuff......It's been fun
Later
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God has never failed me ...
by CoolBreeze injust wanted to share this personal thought.
god has never failed me, but every religion has.. .
god has always been eternal.
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ohhhhhhh.......not paying close attention.....(red faced) I stand corrected ...so sorry charlie...I mean uh sorry people I'de like to take advantage of the newbie chat ......room for foot in mouth break...ever so grateful
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God has never failed me ...
by CoolBreeze injust wanted to share this personal thought.
god has never failed me, but every religion has.. .
god has always been eternal.
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Emperor Class........Whoa.....thats just twisted......that child was hurt because the rapist chose not the child. Therapy for you maybe?
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God has never failed me ...
by CoolBreeze injust wanted to share this personal thought.
god has never failed me, but every religion has.. .
god has always been eternal.
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Cool Breeze.......... Amen!
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Poll:
by Monster in.
how many of you hold to some of the beliefs jws taught, and what are they?
peace james
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LyinEyes, I read to my hubby your funny comment on "NO comments from JW"S" we laughted and he wanted me to say ...yah...".They are a legend in their own minds" Just wanted to share. He never did program with them but stood by my side while I spent 15 years with em. Makes me think of all of the times they comforted me with since my husband wasn't in The truth they would be my family.....and I said hey wait a minute I believe God said it is a choice....and it wasn't mandatory that we are allowed to choose what we believe......I thanked them but said my pagon husband is a wonderful friend of mine, a good man and all the family I really needed..(besides my kiddies)...thanks anyway! It was really weird....we moved alot, several states over the time period and it never failed that after going through the JW credit check ie: is your husband in the truth, are you a pioneer etc etc.....they would always get a pitiful look as if to say....there there you poor thing...your husband isn't in the truth......and I would have to explain that it is ok. I have a wonderful husband ....I think i will keep him....hahah
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Poll:
by Monster in.
how many of you hold to some of the beliefs jws taught, and what are they?
peace james
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I'm with you all the way on this one Simon. Most people who leave the organization feel they have been dooped and they look elsewhere. I think all religion is corrupt and one must move with caution if they still feel the need for organized religion. I do not. I think there are levels so to speak in Satans organization regarding religion. I believe they are feeding grounds for him and his to manipulate right hearted people. The problem is they know who they are so they know who we are...We don't know who they are ....so we "turn the other cheek" and they have a party at our expense ....I would venture a guess that JW organization is on a level somewhat like the president or something VERY HIGH on the scale and very powerful (since the defaming is being done literally in gods name.and then it trickles down from there to all other religions.
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Poll:
by Monster in.
how many of you hold to some of the beliefs jws taught, and what are they?
peace james
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Well now wasn't that fun! I was just replying to you Gopher and I learned that if you back button to put in the UN and PW that you forgot to put in and you don't copy the huge paragraph that you just tried to post.....YOU lose it...AAAUUURRRGGGH!
I premised the missing post with thanks Gopher and any tips for navigation are welcome since I really am a newbie newbie wooooosh! lost it all....lol on the outside....fingers are a lil angry with me though
As I was saying: I sort of have a mourning like feeling or maybe anger associated with my abscence from the cong. I think now 4 years. I get upset when I think of the abusive use of Gods gift of knowledge within the leaders mostly of the cong. I was and am so grateful to have found Jehovah and will never know how to express the appreciation of that alone but am abhored at what is being done to so many searching as I was. I didn't even realize some of the things we as JW'S believed because coming from the "World" and not being raised up in it I edited things coming from the platform as personal choice or well thats a good attempt at guessing, the jury is out on that one (haha) type of thing but she let me know that some things had been carved in stone so to speak. Any way I have seen an abundance of pain and suffering caused by this iron hand method of "love" and I can't wait to see Jehovah's take on matters. Will be an explosive day for some is my guess
Ok, UN and PW are in effect, sending post again
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Poll:
by Monster in.
how many of you hold to some of the beliefs jws taught, and what are they?
peace james
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I believe gods name is Jehovah, and I believe he does have a plan for good over evil ....When; where; how; who; what; don't concern myself on that one. I mean he is God! I will let him handle it and try not to worry about the details and I "WILL" live this life while I am alive and appreciate being given it and not just look to "The future"....thats what I came away from the organization with.
I appreciate most, not carrying the burdon of saving the world anymore....I mean I read somewhere that, that is Jesus' job.....haha
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