Dear God, I will so DO THIS! ^_^ Got a group of friends together and we're going to do it right before finals. Shauna, if you look at this, please e-mail me. If' you're from the same hall that I'm from, I'd love to hear from you. My addy is [email protected] Anybody else can e mail me if they want. ^__^ *ROTFLMFAO*
NaruNaruChan
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Should I go Decorate my old KH? GRIN>
by NaruNaruChan in.
so this morning at around 5am, my girlfriend and i were driving in north fresno and we noticed that there are two huge christmastree like trees in front of the hall, outside of the oh-so-welcoming gates... and so i got to thinking... and... hmm.... should i???
in the words of ts eliot, "do i dare disturb the universe?".
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An exJW gets one pregnant
by bluemoon ini'm relatively new here and this site has helped me a lot.
however, i think i'm going to need more help... i was dfed back in july just after my 18th birthday; i just couldn't take it any more.
things have been very hard for me to say the least.
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NaruNaruChan
Hey, ... that's rough. Can you support her? I mean, are you living in a college dormitory? Or are you living in an apartment? My suggestion would be to get her to move in with you when or if she chooses to leave the org. I just left a month ago, I'm telling you it's harsh and unforgiving and fucked up the stuff they will do to you.
And if she stays in the org., pregnant and unmarried... she'll regret it. They'll cast stones at her as if she was Satan himself. My best suggestion to you would be well... if you love her, and she loves you, then do EVERYTHING you can to make it work for her. Ya gotta take responsibility for what you do. (shrugs) As for losing friends/family... well, they weren't real friends to begin with, because they only like ya for yer religion, and that's plain fucked up.
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Should I go Decorate my old KH? GRIN>
by NaruNaruChan in.
so this morning at around 5am, my girlfriend and i were driving in north fresno and we noticed that there are two huge christmastree like trees in front of the hall, outside of the oh-so-welcoming gates... and so i got to thinking... and... hmm.... should i???
in the words of ts eliot, "do i dare disturb the universe?".
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NaruNaruChan
So this morning at around 5am, my girlfriend and I were driving in North Fresno and we noticed that there are two huge christmastree like trees in front of the hall, outside of the oh-so-welcoming gates... and so I got to thinking... and... hmm.... should I??? In the words of TS Eliot, "DO I DARE DISTURB THE UNIVERSE?"
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What Did You Give Up To Be A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus inbesides giving up our time and assets,is there anything that you particularly felt that you truly "gave up" to become or remain a witness?
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NaruNaruChan
I gave up my family at 17 years of age... I'm only twenty folks, but they welcomed me back open armed... ^_^ I gave up all of my interesting friends for friends who COULD NOT EVEN WRITE THEIR OWN NAME! I almost gave up love, thank goodness she didn't give up on me. <=)
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ANYBODY FROM THE CENTRAL VALLEY IN CALI!?
by NaruNaruChan in.
just curious, anybody from california or the central valley area ???.
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Coming at cha from Oakdale California, Born and raised in Daly City by SF, and currently going to school in Fresno. ^_^ Rem, you grew up in Stockton? You might know the bastards that converted me. ^_^ Wysocki or Ardis, do those last names sound familiar?
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ANYBODY FROM THE CENTRAL VALLEY IN CALI!?
by NaruNaruChan in.
just curious, anybody from california or the central valley area ???.
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Just curious, anybody from california or the Central Valley area ???
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Any university students?
by happysunshine inany college/university students here?
where do you go, what are you taking, and hows your experience so far?
don't be shy!
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Yeah!!! Fresno State represent!!! I'm out here in California finishing up my BA in Art history with a minor in Japanese. ^_^ I was always a firm believer in actually getting my education so I wasn't going to end up A: cleaning houses or B: working in a restaurant or C: on welfare. ^_^
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The Night the Elders called me.
by NaruNaruChan inhey all,.
left the org approx.
one month ago, so i'm freshly out and still working my way through the depression of losing my three best friends... but anyway, not important, what i was wondering was if any of you got this line from the elders the night you went to meet with them... so here's my story, take it or leave it.. i'm a homosexual, i've known since i was young, not raised in "the truth" but converted when i was seventeen, four years ago... anyway, i suppressed it, etc, until i decided that i wanted to leave the org.
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Hey All,
Thank you so much for all your encouraging thoughts. It's funny... leaving was the easy part, it's dealing with being away from all the other witnesses that were my friends that's hard. Here's the really funny thing. My best friend still talks to me, but it's from a distance, you know? We have classes together, and she'll speak to me in class, but if I run into her in public, she refuses to associate with me. I know why, but man, it sucks. Tomorrow, I think I'll end my friendship with her for good, because that's the most half-assed shit I have ever seen. Maybe I'll post a new topic about this and see what y'all think of it that way. (Smiles) It's crazy how good I feel now, though. I remember feeling totally depressed about leaving the org. in the beginning, but now... now I don't care. ^_^ I mean, I have my days but not nearly as bad as in the beginning.
PopeofEruk, I'll check out that song. ^_^ heh heh, looks like a winner.
SMILE!
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The Night the Elders called me.
by NaruNaruChan inhey all,.
left the org approx.
one month ago, so i'm freshly out and still working my way through the depression of losing my three best friends... but anyway, not important, what i was wondering was if any of you got this line from the elders the night you went to meet with them... so here's my story, take it or leave it.. i'm a homosexual, i've known since i was young, not raised in "the truth" but converted when i was seventeen, four years ago... anyway, i suppressed it, etc, until i decided that i wanted to leave the org.
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Thanks for the welcome, and yeah at least I wasn't in it for too long. I can't imagine the pain those of you who were in the Org. for over 5 years feel... or 10, shit, that must be awful. It was hard for me, though, because I lost my best friend... she was the one who introduced me to the religion, and I didn't realize how much that would hurt until I ran into her in public and she shunned me... I felt so angry! I'm taking it a day at a time, thank goodness I had a network of good nonwitness friends who took me back oh so easily. They were thrilled to see I was still alive under the mask that I cast over myself when I became a JW.
As regards the sex questions, I was like "Ew, perverts!" But the funny thing is, I didn't leave for sex, although I did commit fornication... I left because I was in love, and they treated me like I was in Lust, and like I was an apostate... which hurt. Man, it was total crap.
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The Night the Elders called me.
by NaruNaruChan inhey all,.
left the org approx.
one month ago, so i'm freshly out and still working my way through the depression of losing my three best friends... but anyway, not important, what i was wondering was if any of you got this line from the elders the night you went to meet with them... so here's my story, take it or leave it.. i'm a homosexual, i've known since i was young, not raised in "the truth" but converted when i was seventeen, four years ago... anyway, i suppressed it, etc, until i decided that i wanted to leave the org.
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Hey all,
Left the org approx. one month ago, so I'm freshly out and still working my way through the depression of losing my three best friends... but anyway, not important, what I was wondering was if any of you got this line from the elders the night you went to meet with them... so here's my story, take it or leave it.
I'm a homosexual, I've known since I was young, not raised in "the Truth" but converted when I was seventeen, four years ago... Anyway, I suppressed it, etc, until I decided that I wanted to leave the org. partially because I was tired of lying to myself and a body of people, and partly for doctrinal issues that I disagreed with... (i.e. shunning... ) So I went ahead and wrote the elders a letter, told my four best friends that I was going to be DFed because I committed fornication and was unrepentant, and a few days later I got a call from the Elders... "let's meet and talk about this" i get in a really friendly "nothing's wrong" voice. I'm like "Sure, maybe you guys can help me work through the issues, maybe I'm wrong, at the very least I owe the org. one last chance." So I show up at the hall... against the wishes of all the "worldly" friends I have who were saying "Dear God, Don't go because you're gonna get it and you don't even see it." Me, I'm like "Eh, the elders are great guys, they wont do anything mean to me, It's all gravy don't trip." etc.
Anyway, I get there, and they immediately start by tactfully calling me names... "Unrighteous" "doomed" "abomination" everything short of FAGGOT, basically. Then I got asked a line of really personal questions, i.e. about the Sin I committed, etc. too graphic, which I dodged and said "what does it matter, fornication is fornication." then I get this line of crap about how I am disowning the Faith for what I did (thank god for that) but this is the kicker.. one Elder said that I could no longer pray to Jehovah because he would not listen to me." Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Tell me... Not only do I get shunned, but I can't pray or talk to any other JWs minus the elders... so what the f--k? I assume that means that the only encouragement I get since Jehovah isn't even on my side is from the World, and oh no (sarcastic) we all know where that leads! (Family life improves, friends come back in flocks saying how much they missed you, etc.) At that point, anyway, I decided that the org. was totally full of s--t and that i had made a major mistake on going down there. They dismissed me after two hours of being yelled and preached at. (mind you, I was in great standing in the cong when this happened... never ever reproved, in the Theo School, Aux. Pioneer, etc... Never a bad moment... just decided they were wrong. Fact is, a year ago an old old friend of mine from HS was DFed for being unstable... she's BIPOLAR! How the heck is that supposed to help her??? Being shunned only made her suicidal. I want to know what you all think. It's funny, because I wasn't ever going to be an "apostate" but they sort of... sort of PUSH you in that direction, don't they? I hate it because everytday everytime I go somewhere I run into an old witness... and it's like "damnit, go away, I eat here too so you can leave." Funny how they accept you with open arms until you decide that you disagreee with something.
Also, did anybody else notice that at least if you were there int he last six months how PREACHY stuff was getting. That's what ultimately did me in. Or how about this phrase from the sisters "The society recommends/emphasizes..." insert phrasiology here. When is it Bible based and when is it the Society? Well, my conclusion, currently, is the WTBS makes a few good points here and there, and although they don't worship a single man, they worship an organization... they DEIFY the damned organization, and that's what makes it a cult. The shunning, as well. So, questions comments?? appreciate some input, as I am one pissed off ExJW.
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