Posts by Tech49

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21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

by James Jack in

i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

Tech49

James Jack(son), good to see you made the transition to the new board...I was wondering if you would be back. How goes the battle?

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JW.org email and contact numbers

by Juan Viejo2 in

ok - here is your task for the day:.

go to jw.org and find their information email address.

then find their weekend support desk phone number.. there is a link at the bottom of many pages that says [ ] email link.

Tech49

Nope, there is no email contact link. There is absolutely zero way to send an email to WT, the Contact link on the website would have you beleive that you are clicking on an email address link, but it goes nowhere. You are taken back to the page showing a postal mailing address and a weekday phone number to the main reception.

Pretty lame, in an era of email and electronic communication. Also, just a bit deceptive, as they hide behind a figurative wall of anonymity. Reminds me of a man behind a cdrtain curtain.......

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Who Benefits from the Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Empire that is WT?

by TTATTelder in

this thread is to formally address this subject.

this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).

please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.

Tech49

Yes, it may vary, depending upon the country. The head 7 leaders of WTBS are in the USA, and so SHOULD be accountable to its State and Federal laws...........And so wouldn't that be against the law, ie ILLEGAL ?? I know that wait staff at restaurants are legally required to report tip income, much of it being cash. Not reporting it, and/or under-reporting can be basis for IRS troubles, ie. tax evasion. So these guys can get away with it, just cause they're Gods mouthpiece?

Answer: of course they do, as Ceasar's laws only apply when convenient. They ARE in fact a paid clergy, they just dont admit it... in fact they openly LIE and tell the rank and file that only Christendom has such.

Blatant lies and misdirection.

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Who Benefits from the Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Empire that is WT?

by TTATTelder in

this thread is to formally address this subject.

this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).

please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.

Tech49

So I have a question, something along a similar vein to the original post. I dont mean to detract from the original question.

Specifically relating to the GB and other higher-ups.... do they pay taxes? Doesn't their free housing, food, plane tickets, laundry, medical care, hotels etc etc etc count as taxable income? The true real-world value can be easily calculated, so is it?

The "brothers" claim that their "clergy" is not paid, but the reality is much different!!

I know that if my business receives "perks", or even reimbursements, I have to pay taxes on them, as a MISC INCOME.

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WTS leader rants against higher education

by hoser in

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on jw tv.

anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

Tech49

I finally got around to viewing this sorry excuse for "spiritual food", ie. the January video.

Firstly, Tony's "rant" is ridiculous, again. He uses MANY terms to put people down, push his own personal opinion, and to openly chastise anyone not making the "proper" decisions.

As has already been stated, he then does a complete 180 with the mention of a "nursing degree" as being "acceptable"???

And then, after beating the slaves repeatedly and making them all feel ostensibly stupid for even THINKING about getting any education, other than to become a "carpenter or plumber", we fade into the next story...

How the WT sent a plain ol factory worker to LAW SCHOOL, full ride !!!

Now, I take many things with a grain of salt, and consider the source, but this was just absurd. The hypocrisy was full-on... how can anyone NOT see that??

The brother was enrolled in Law School, and obviously took all the other classes required by the college, many not even related to the degree (his words). Fully funded by WT. Right? As someone mentioned... WHO DROPPED HIM OFF ???!!

So let me get this straight.... in the 80's, our brother was put thru Law School by WTBTS. I remember the 80's. I was in High School here in the USA, I wanted to go to college, I could have gotten a full scholarship. But the elders said absolutely no way, "unacceptable"!!! If I would have told them to kick rocks, and went anyways, I would have been shunned like nobody's business! ALL the elders in our Congregation said how WORLDLY it was, how DISGUSTING college would be, how you would FALL OUT OF THE TRUTH, how your life would FALL APART because college is SATANS HOUSE!! A meeting in the back room would have been high up on the agenda! On and on it went, until I was guilted, like so many others, to throw away the opportunity.

But alas, its ok for WT to send their own guys to an outside Law School ??? WTF ??

I have previously written some about this, and about the "educated ones" they want to come to Bethel, when they first started the process with Warwick... see here --->> EDUCATION DOUBLE STANDARD

Complete double standard, do as we say, not as we do.!!

Complete morons. I am beginning to hate these guys more and more. Its not just Mr Tony (he just makes the biggest fool of himself, repeatedly); obviously all of them put their stamp of approval on this trash, and they ship it out to be lapped up by the masses like strawberry milk.

Oh, and you can bet the farm on this one, mark my words.... they WILL be using outside LAW FIRMS to represent them in the future, to avoid conflict of interest accusations. And guess who will PAY!!???? Not me, tell you that right now. Peace out.

Jack Harper, Tech49

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Proud JW.ORG Photos everyone needs to see! The Watchtower Sanctified the Internet for Preaching!

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

i am proud to be a jehovah's witness in the last days, what religion has done this much to proclaim the message about the organization?

other religions are preaching about jesus, some wear the crucifixion, other's wear shirts with fishes but we wear shirts with jw.org!

no other religion has our courage!.

Tech49

So sad. Your feeble attempt to show how different you are from the world, yet so similar, is exacerbated by the one thing you refuse to see and acknowledge. ?...the blatant idolatry. Your beloved jw.org pins and memorabilia are just that...icons of idolatry, no different than fish emblems or crosses.

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Why must we APPLY for everything?

by Tech49 in

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i was thinking about this today, after seeing another thread on the subject of serving in israel, of all places.

there have been many comments on the recent thread, and the ones a little older, about how utterly ridiculous that premise is.. the bigger question is why do i have to apply?

permission?

Tech49

I was thinking about this today, after seeing another thread on the subject of serving in Israel, of all places. There have been many comments on the recent thread, and the ones a little older, about how utterly ridiculous that premise is.

The bigger question is WHY DO I HAVE TO APPLY? Apply for what? Permission? This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Here's why: WT is not going to "sponsor" you in any way, they arent going to give you a magic shiny button, or pay for your hotel, or airfare, or meals, or anything. The only thing they will give you is a list, or a contact congregation. That's it! Have a great time, and don't get shot or have your head cut off! They certainly won't petition a foreign goverment if you get captured or are imprisoned... although you may get a mention in next years copy of the Yearbook.

Again, why do I have to APPLY for this? How about.... if I want to go to Israel, or Italy, or Germany, or Australia, or Pakistan, or India, or Japan, or NORTH KOREA to "preach".... I just GO !

Reminds me distinctly of the "special", "invite only" attendees at the international conventions this last year. I have to APPLY? What for? Why? What if I dont APPLY and I just go anyways? What happens? answer: Nothing.... oh wait.... you will be treated like dirt, for not "submitting" to authority.

I mentioned that to a sister, an elder's wife a while back. The conversation went like this:

I said "Hey, lets all go to Hawaii for the I.C. this year, and make a vacation out of it!" She said "Well, maybe, but we have to submit an application and wait to get approved." I replied "Why? Its Hawaii...Lets just book the tickets and go!"

She seriously looked at me like I was Satan himself. Her eyes got real big, her voice cracked a little, and she said, and I kid you not: "We cant do that, it's going against the Society's instructions!!!!!."

(facepalm) I replied, with a sigh, "No, its not. There is nothing anywhere that says you CAN'T go anywhere you want, and besides, what are they going to do, arrest you for going to the Convention?" She threw her hands up in utter disgust and walked away... hasn't spoken to me much since...

It's almost as if these people can't even tie their own shoes without being told to do so. AFTER they get permission to do so!

Freaking grown-ups that are chained to the floor by their own stupidity.

Jack Harper, Tech49

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LDC Semininar

by Sour Grapes in

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ldc semininar @ patterson nov 15-18, 2014 .

entire ldc dept included remote workers/design/legal/real estate/purchasing.

oversight.

Tech49

I second the comments of Leaving_quietly. I recognized the name Mark Lafdany as well; I have worked with him in the past, he is a company man thru and thru.

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What laws are on your side (in the U.S.) so you can leave quietly

by oppostate in

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in another topic "just quit quietly - the law is on your side" there was a lot of discussion about how to leave quietly without getting tagged publicly as "no longer a jw".

here are some legal cases that could be used to show support for leaving quietly.. you have to first send a letter saying you're leaving that specific congregation, and that you don't want them to keep records of you.. if the boe says anything against you here are some court cases that make precedent for bringing a suit against them:.

baugh v. thomas (1970).

Tech49

No better words than as already stated.

They have only as much power over you as you allow them to have. Take away their perceived power, and they are nothing but selfish, arrogant men that don't really have your best interests at heart.

Don't give them more than they deserve, and focus your efforts and attentions where it will be appreciated. Love your family, say something nice to a complete stranger, exchange a smile, thank a veteran or a police officer.

Empower those that deserve it, including yourself, and take back that same power from those that will lie to your face and stab you in the back.

Jack Harper, Tech49

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The Christmas fence

by Tech49 in

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so i noticed something the other day on facebook.. a group of "sisters" in several neighboring congregations got their young daughters together for a "girls day", to spend some quality time together.

now this group, of whom i know many, is composed mainly of elders' and ministerial servants' wives.

the general theme, or focus of the "party" was to build gingerbread houses with the kids.. ok, no big deal right?

Tech49

So I noticed something the other day on Facebook.

A group of "sisters" in several neighboring congregations got their young daughters together for a "girls day", to spend some quality time together. Now this group, of whom I know many, is composed mainly of elders' and ministerial servants' wives. The general theme, or focus of the "party" was to build Gingerbread houses with the kids.

Ok, no big deal right? Anyone can go to the store to buy a Gingerbread House kit, and go at it. Again, no big deal, and each to his own. Dont get me wrong, if you want to celebrate Christmas, do the tree thing, you go for it.

Here's where things got a little interesting, at least from my perspective. They all posted pictures of their glorious party, with the caption of WINTER PARTY, including group photos of everyone holding their version of a gingerbread house, decorated with all the trimmings. They all stood around a grand kitchen table, topped with a shiny snowman, glittering garlands, homemade hanging snowflakes, and lights adorning the table.

I showed it to Victoria, just offhand, without any leading of the question....

"What does this look like to you?" She glanced over quickly, then back to her own Ipad "Somebody's Christmas party I guess.., why?"

I chuckled a little and said, "Look closer, CLOSER sweetheart, and tell me what you see."

She went in for a closer examination of the evidence at hand. "Wow, I see who it is now.... I coulda swore that was a Christmas party! What in the world are they thinking?...."

Yep, a whole room full of the finest in the circuit, the do-gooders and the uppidy ups, the richy's and the flagrant, the boisterous and the pompous, some regular pioneers, some wives of elders, some of ministerial servants.... having their own version of a Winter Holiday Party.

Here's the question, as I wonder out loud.... Why is it that so many of God's Holy People claim to distance themselves from the trappings of the world, from the SATANIC celebrations, from the EVILS of the HOLIDAYS but in reality..... they go out of their way to ride the line? The preverbial fence, legs hanging on both sides!!?? The mock Thanksgiving "family time", complete with Turkey dinners and all. Black Friday shopping frenzies, with carloads of JW's joining in like drunk sheep. Winter parties....it never ends. But all you Satanic heathens will soon be DEAD, crow food for sure.

Here, dear reader, is the answer, again as I wonder out loud, and the single descriptive word that came out of my beloved Vic's mouth, immediately after her comments above. A word that was uttered with a snarl of disgust, a word that so eloquently and consisely describes most JW's:

Hypocrites.

Yours Truly,

Jack Harper, Tech49