Posts by Tech49

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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

by Watchtower-Free in

october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

dear brothers:.

Tech49

I absolutely concur with konceptual99..... public talks given by Real Men will be replaced by videos, and pre-recorded sessions direct from the GB, much like the video programs that are included in the Morning Worship sessions. This will eliminate ANY and ALL personalized discussions and "talks" that are subject to individual study and research. NO MORE will there be any place to interject YOUR personalized viewpoint.

No longer will there be a requirement for THINKING. Your services are no longer required.

GET IN LINE, sheeple. All Hail the Great GB !!

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Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

by sir82 in

jw
friends

heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

Tech49

The other day I talked with a friend who had spent 6 weeks at Warwick over the winter. He said it was the most unorganized clusterf#&@* he had ever seen. From a purely construction standpoint, it was hugely wasteful and inefficient, with so much work having to be done several times just to get it right. The reason is simple: One week you have this group of brothers in to do a task, the next week you may have a whole different crew, and no one knows what the other guys did, and what the next crew will do! So tons of materials and supplies go wasted, or get removed and demo'd due to lack of experience.

Now, having burnt the experienced brothers out, their pool of qualified help is dwindling down to nothing. More and more outside contractors are being brought in to complete key components of the build. Many of the "friends" are tired of it.

My friend said this: "I dont understand why they just dont PAY the brothers to do the work. No one can afford to go there on their own dime, and miss weeks or months of income to work there. And then, after they leave, their work is torn out! It just doesnt make any sense!"

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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

by Watchtower-Free in

october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

dear brothers:.

Tech49

Just imagine......It wont be long and all of the meetings and Regional Conventions and Special Assembly days will just be videos and preprinted "talks", sprinkled with the occasional fake "examples", "experiences", and "demos".......... oh wait........................ they are.

The intellectual thinkers and anyone with skills in "reasoning" are gone, and any remaining are being phased out due to "non-compliance".

Just press "PLAY", and you will fit right in, you little robot.... GHovah appreciates all your hard work!

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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

by Watchtower-Free in

october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

dear brothers:.

Tech49

How sad.

No more Theocratic Ministry School means that never again will just any ol' publisher have the opportunity to "teach" from the platform, after making up his own talk outline, based on his own research or thoughts.

Everything will come from a pretty workbook with lots of pictures and wide margins and bullet points and pre-printed questions. And a space to write your own notes, hey thanks, that's awesome! And then here, lets all watch this awesome video!

Any and all individualized thinking is now eliminated. Just look at the pretty pictures and re-gurgitate the answers from the "workbook". Sounds like a 3rd grade curriculum. Are they going to pass out little boxes of WT Crayons with bible verses next ??!!

And then lets cut the already painfully meager and lame WT and Awake magazines to HALF of what they are now. And then lets make the Bible Teach Book even SIMPLER ????!! Are you kidding me right now? OMG how stupid! Its already so pitifully elementary level that no one in their right mind would get the "truth" from it!

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JW "charity" during wildfire crisis

by RedPillPopper in

jw
friends

so i live in the area of the 'valley' wildfire in northern california.

i just returned home after 3 days evacuated.

there is a family who run a fitness center and had opened their doors in disaster relief to affected people with beds, food, clothing and shelter.

Tech49

I live in an area where wildfires are a serious threat every summer. Our town is pretty small, some of the nearby towns are a little bigger. Anyways, last year, the city planning department asked the COBE if the local KH and parking lot could be used in an emergency, for shelter, storage of equipment (parking lot is pretty big), etc. They really like the fact that our seats are all moveable... so they could pull them all out and have one large room if needed. Now, granted, this would be in the event of a MAJOR local disaster, more than likely fire related.

Being that the town is small, and most people know one another, including the "brothers", the elders told them that it shouldnt be a problem, and that a "great community witness" would surely occur if such a thing were to happen. They were a little giddy about being asked to provide such a service to the locals.

Then they sent word to headquarters, just to confirm. And you can guess what happened next. WT sent out word.... "absolutely NOT". The usual replies with "liability", "insurance" , "we already provide a GREAT service to the community", blah blah blah. So the brothers had to go back to the city and rescind the offer. They were pretty embarrassed.

It was really sad, just sad.

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Today's Special Day Assembly Expenses and the $10,499 Deficit. Silent Majority?

by Tenacious in

today i attended a one-day assembly in my hometown.

i knew when it came time to read the afternoon expenses that it would be an incredibly high and ridiculous amount that was nowhere near the real expenses for that day.

sure enough, after lunch came the announcement.

Tech49

I can confirm what James Jack mentioned earlier. We had our Circuit Assembly day yesterday, accounts were read and brother mentioned that yes, our per capita expense had more than doubled to the $10.50/publisher fee. Even in his tone and inflection, you couldn't help but notice him stumble at that one. Thusly, with an attendance of right at 1,000 our amount "due" was just shy of $11,000. This on an assembly hall that is fully booked every weekend, and has been paid for for years. Our contributions were thus far at less than half of what was "needed". They had an announcement about contributions 3 times throughout the day, in addition to the CO talk about using our material possessions for the greatest good (meaning DONATE).

Along with the very pointed standard comments about not buying the newest gadgets and phones (including a demo, yes seriously). The father and son re-thought buying the newest phones for the whole family, so they could send the money to WT instead (seriously, they said that!). Oh, and a comment or two thrown in about "tight pants" , and what Tony Morris was really trying to say,...from the CO...

Oh, and for the first time ever that I can recall, we had a flat ZERO baptized. Way to go pioneers, elders, and CO's ! Outstanding use of your time for the last 9 months! Bravo! The cart witnessing is obviously soooo effective!

I overheard more than one comment about the lack of baptismal candidates, even the brother giving the talk wasnt quite sure what to think! MASSIVE FAIL.

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JWs are not charitable

by BashfulAshG in

hey guys,.

i'm just venting here because obviously, i can vent to no one else because i am still in the congregation.. jws as a whole do nothing to help the poor, the homeless, the sick, the hungry, though some individual jws do.

because they are too busy giving to the gb.

Tech49

One day I was at the KH early. The phone rang in the library. I answered, and a young lady was looking for help. She gave a tearful account of her current circumstances, and sounded like she TRULY did need a hand. She was reaching out to any and all churches in the area, looking to get signed up for anything she could.

I was an elder at the time, and gave her the cold, typical JW answer: "We dont have any type of outreach program, or funding for the needy. "

Right then I realized how utterly ridiculous that sounded, so I added "However, I know that the Catholic church up the street has a great program for actually helping needy ones, so give them a call."

I was just beginning the process of waking up, and this was one of those defining moments I will never forget, the moment when I was truly embarrassed to be affiliated with WTBS.

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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

by Marvin Shilmer in

this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

Tech49

IF, and I mean IF....... Mr. Jackson meant that it would be presumptuous to assume that THEY were the only spokesmen for God on earth (thusly insinuating that there could be others)..... then who is the other "spokesman"? Whom else is chosen by the Almighty God..... who Mr. Jackson, WHO?

Why answer with vagueries and riddles? If, Mr Jackson Sir, you have to make up this stuff as you go along, something is seriously wrong, and you are only deceiving yourself. The rest of us see it, we are not blind......you are the Emporer with no clothes.

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

Tech49

I have been thinking about this comment (see Original Post by Caleb's Airplane).

Mr. Jackson DID in fact answer the question. His brain DOES work. His answer should be very eye-opening and appalling to his faithful followers..Here's why.:

READ THIS SLOWLY........He couldn't say YES.

Why not? Because he doesn't believe it either. He knows it fake, a facade, a mockery, a self-appointed position of oversight. Again, why?

He stumbled. He hesitated, and then chose his words very carefully. In fact, If he felt that he was in fact (or at least a part of) Gods Channel, there would be no hesitation. Right then, at that very moment, he lost all credibility. Why wouldn't he have said a confident "YES, WE DO!" Because he doesn't, .... they don't. To do so is foolish, arrogant, and yes, presumptuous.

In replying with the "that would be presumptuous of us" remark, he is saying that there is no good answer.... to answer YES would openly admit to the world in general that they are terribly haughty, self serving, and condescending.... when in fact, according to their own literature, that is in fact what they admit. According to the Glorious Seven, They are the ONLY TRUE spokesman of God.

If he were to reply NO, WE ARE NOT, he would admit openly that they were full of themselves, and had absolutely no backing from an almighty being, and everything they were spewing forth was absolute rubbish.

It reminds me of the counsel we all received, at some point I am sure. While in Field Service, or elsewhere...If someone asks us..."do you believe you have the only TRUE religion?" ...... You should have ZERO hesitation, if that's what you really believe! If you can't answer honestly, or you hesitate, or have to choose your words carefully, then a self examination is in order.

You, my friends, just got a Get-Out-Of-Jail-FREE card.. If someone, anyone, asks you that exact question... you know the one....

"Do you believe that the Faithful and Discreet Slave is God's channel here on earth today?"

You can say......

"UM..... That would be very presumptuous of me..."

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Can disassociated ones get reinstated without proving repentance?

by maksutov in

one of the jw high-ups questioned by the australian royal commission (i think it was o'brien) stated that those who had disassociated (as opposed to being disfellowshipped) do not have to undergo a lengthy reinstatement procedure of proving repentance over many months, but can simply ask to be reinstated immediately.

is this true?

has anyone heard of this ever happening?.

Tech49

I know personally of someone, an immediate family member, that DA'd. She wrote an official letter and everything (I dont know what it said, but I know she wrote one). Went on to live it up, free reign to to most anything. (holidays, boyfriends, etc etc). A few years went by, had a few kids, finally married some schmo, and she wanted to get back in so that her mom and the grandkids could have a relationship.

She went back to the cong she grew up in, and went to weekday meetings (husband would not let her go to Sundays, nor take the kids to ANY meetings). She went for all of 6 weeks, yes 6 weeks, played the poor abused wife card (no spiritual support), and requested "reinstatement". APPROVED. She then promptly moved out of town, to another state.

Yes, 6 weeks, and I know this for a fact. She NEVER took the kids to a single meeting, and faded back out shortly after that.

So the answer is YES, it can be done the way Mr Obrien stated, its all in who you know and what kind of game you play.