Side effect of Downsizing......$$$

by Tech49 in

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so here is a tidbit you will all just love!.

we all are hearing of the trend right now to ¨downsize¨ the congregations...ie... eliminate by combining, in order to blah blah blah... .

here is what you didnt know: every time a congregation is dissolved, for whatever reason, including merging or dispersing, wt makes money!

Tech49

So here is a tidbit you will all just love!

We all are hearing of the trend right now to ¨downsize¨ the congregations...ie... eliminate by combining, in order to blah blah blah...

Here is what you didnt know: Every time a congregation is dissolved, for whatever reason, including merging or dispersing, WT MAKES MONEY! How so?

Like this: example: KH has 3 congregations in it. Someone determines that 3 is too many, as attendance is low in all 3, so they dissolve 1 and disburse the people to the remaining 2. All 3 congregations have money in the bank, or funds on hand. When the 1 congregation is dissolved, their funds on hand DO NOT get transferred or shared between the remaining 2. If they have been saving for remodel or seats or TVś or anything..... GONE.

The bylaws in the instructions to the congregations show that any funds on hand for the dissolved congregation ALL go to the almighty WT Headquarters. No one gets a say in it, no voting, no discussion. The older couple that donated their savings to their local congregation account to help out with something, or to cover expenses during disasters, or new carpet, or anything..POOF! GONE.

Now granted, we are probably not talking about huge amounts of money per congregation, as previous instructions dictated that congregations only keep a few months expenses on hand at any given time (and send the rest to ¨mother¨ asap). But still, $5000 for every congregation dissolved could add up quick!

All hail the money machine!

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October 31, 2017 TO SELECTED BOEs IN THE US BRANCH TERRITORY Re: Discontinuation of the Funds-on-Deposit Arrangement

by wifibandit in

october 31, 2017 to selected bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: discontinuation of the funds-on-deposit arrangement.

Tech49

So, in review:

Any extra funds on deposit should be sent to us via the KHC fund, 'cause we plan on bulding lots of KH's in the future...we promise...... If that doesnt happen for some reason (like you all get lazy or something), then the funds will be returned to your bank account. At which point you will be asked to donate it back to us to the World Wide Work....because.... you dont really need that money anyways.... so...... ya.

PS. make sure to keep 2-3 months worth of operating expenses on hand tho, because thats all you really need. Hey, and thanks for your generous spirit!

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Amarillo TX RBC Liquidation- Branch Resource Recovery Team

by jwabuse.com in

got this in my inbox today, thought it was kind of interesting.

i like the wording "all proceeds go to non-profit programs.

" i wonder what all exactly the "branch resource recovery team" gets involved in?.

Tech49

This one just popped up for the Pacific NW.

(forwarded to me by a friend)

Dear RBC/LDC Volunteers!

Final Northwest RBC Liquidation

The US Branch Resource Recovery team has arranged for a final Northwest RBC liquidation. This event at the Douglas County Fairgrounds - Douglas Hall, will be a 2-day Public Sale followed by a 1-day Public Auction. LDC volunteers from 25 states have been invited to work at this event.

Private Pre-Sale

RBC/LDC workers are invited to a private pre-sale for JW families only, to have first pick on Thursday October 19 starting at 9am. Please forward this invitation to your former RBC crew by clicking the "Forward" button below. You may also invite non-RBC volunteers as your guests. This 24,000 SF building will be filled with RBC tools and trailers (no tables). Pictures are being added daily HERE or click on the flyer above. Requests for a flyer without this invitation may be sent to [email protected].

Sunday Auction

Items not sold during the 2-day Public Sale will be included in a no-reserve auction on Sunday October 22. There will be no buyer's premium added. Unsold trailers and other large assets will be auctioned with a low-reserve.

Hurricane Disaster Relief

JW.ORG Breaking News is found here. LDC Disaster Relief and Construction Group oversight will come to this sale location on Wednesday October 18 to obtain needed equipment and supplies.

To reduce the email volume on the jw.org branch network, this invitation is coming to you from a Gmail account linked to JW Congregation Support, Inc., the branch corporation for RBC equipment. Replies and questions may be sent to [email protected].

Hope to see you in Roseburg OR!

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Is this a World Wide Pattern?

by Slidin Fast in

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hundreds baptized at jehovah's witness convention.

at first sight this afican rc looks as though it's acheiving the quantity of baptisms of another era.

348 is a substantilal number and impressive until you see the sunday attendance 28,300. so a baptism rate of 1.2%, in africa.

Tech49

It is definitely a trend in the USA. I remember just a year or so ago, it was the first time in my life that I saw a big fat ZERO baptized at a circuit assembly. It was almost shocking. Even for me, I was pretty amazed! Even the speaker seemed a little unprepared for it! He stumbled and stammered his way thru his talk..... looking at the empty front row.......I couldnt help but think ¨so for 1500 of you, you couldnt even con 1 person into getting baptized??¨" Crazy? For all those hours and hours reported?

Since then, I had heard that an ¨unofficial¨ word went around from the CO to NOT let that happen again. And since then, we always have had at least 3 or so baptized, even if they are all under the age of 15.

Just a few weeks ago, at the Circuit Assembly, there were 1300 in attendance, 4 baptized, 3 kids under 15, and 1 really old dude!

Almost embarrassing!

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How Are Ex Elders Treated In The Congregation?

by minimus in

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are they pretty much left alone?

are they respected for their having been elders at one time?

are they treated like crap?.

Tech49

A good friend of mine is/was a circuit level elder, for many years. We have known each other for probably 30 years. His wife is a regular pioneer, has been for years, and is very well known in the circuit. He was a regular fixture of RBC for many years.

Last year, the whole beard issue took place, and the body of elders he was with had a heated argument about it all. He got so fed up about the hypocrisy and namecalling that he turned in his badge. He told them he couldnt in good conscience ¨serve¨ with grown men that acted like highschool buffoons. Double-standards, and petty ¨rule-making¨ were running rampant. So he stepped down. He had had enough.

Well guess what!? Suddenly a whole new world for him and his wife. Basically, shunning to a degree. No more invites, no more popularity. Gossip and backbiting were like wildfire. No one cared about WHY he was announced as NO LONGER AN ELDER. Didnt matter, as he had OBVIOUSLY done something wrong.!! And ZERO priviliges in the congretation! ZERO! Suddenly, him and his wife were LESS SPIRITUAL than a 13 year old boy., in the eyes of the congregation and the elders. It tore them up for a while. They couldnt understand why they were almost no better than someone who had been DF´d !

It was a real eye opener for them. They are good people tho, and bounced back fairly quickly. What they found was that suddenly they had TONS of free time to travel and PLAY!!

No more grinding out the hampster wheel with assembly parts and elder stuff.

I had a beer with him the other day. He said his fellow ¨elders¨ still basically ignore him. For no other reason than he didnt agree with them and their ¨rule-making¨.

Lame bastards, those borg elders. They keep pushing out the good ones that show real compassion.

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Protect Your Family??

by Tech49 in

here is an article in the current study copy of the wt.

tell me your thoughts and i will tell you mine.!

this is a topic that i am very sensitive about, as i could never see not protecting my family, even if that meant using whatever means at hand to do so!

Tech49

LHG, I completely agree with you. I find it morally wrong and insulting when the same dimwits spout personal opinion, and in the same paragraph, insinuate HIGHLY that their words are now to be taken as RULES and LAW, as defined by a select few, or one, cherry-picked scripture. They never come right out and say it, but you are definitely left and/or forced to come to the same ¨conclusion¨ as them, to ascertain what is ¨right¨.... or you are thrown in the mix with descriptive words that are definitely that of a negative tone: Unchristian, immature, mentally diseased, apostate, etc.

I just get so tired of the double-talk and the style of writing that talks down to anyone who might try and think on their own! All topics and discussions from the GB lately seems to be heavily salted with fear, guilt, and general name-calling.

As you mentioned, the natural desire to be self-protective, and to have genuine empathy and compassion, is being beaten out of the ¨brothers and sisters¨ to the point of them becoming truly and honestly broken!

Broken to such a degree that they let themselves be eaten alive! Its frustrating and so sad, all at the same time.

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Do they take the GB seriously?

by Tech49 in

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so this is an honest question that i have been thinking about for some time.. do regular jehovahś witnesses in other countries (other than the usa) take the governing body in new york seriously?.

i mean, i cant help but wonder about the publishers in japan, or south africa, or mexico, or new zealand, or even the uk, or spain, or italy...... or russia?.

not you and i (we know what you think of them), but the regular jwś...... do they take these american buffoons seriously?

Tech49

Waton, of course I know that. But still the question remains. After all, it would seem that Gods Spirit can only be decyphered in the good ol USA! Once these dudes make the move to New York, they are officially Borg-i-fied. I cant help but wonder if the other Bethel branches and their plebian workforce feel somewhat.... inferior....just because they aren´t in ´merica. I also have to wonder if many of the rank-and-file just look at them and roll their eyes. I see alot of skinny jeans and facial hair in photos from conventions in ¨other countries¨.

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Do they take the GB seriously?

by Tech49 in

jw
friends

so this is an honest question that i have been thinking about for some time.. do regular jehovahś witnesses in other countries (other than the usa) take the governing body in new york seriously?.

i mean, i cant help but wonder about the publishers in japan, or south africa, or mexico, or new zealand, or even the uk, or spain, or italy...... or russia?.

not you and i (we know what you think of them), but the regular jwś...... do they take these american buffoons seriously?

Tech49

So this is an honest question that I have been thinking about for some time.

Do regular Jehovahś Witnesses in other countries (other than the USA) take the Governing Body in New York seriously?

I mean, I cant help but wonder about the publishers in Japan, or South Africa, or Mexico, or New Zealand, or even the UK, or Spain, or Italy...... or Russia?

Not you and I (we know what YOU think of them), but the regular JWś...... do they take these American Buffoons seriously? What have you heard from the rank-and-file in YOUR country.?

JackHarper, Tech49

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Protect Your Family??

by Tech49 in

here is an article in the current study copy of the wt.

tell me your thoughts and i will tell you mine.!

this is a topic that i am very sensitive about, as i could never see not protecting my family, even if that meant using whatever means at hand to do so!

Tech49

This was the first thing that caught my eye:

"While Christians may take reasonable steps to ensure their personal security, they do so within the framework of Bible principles. These advise against the use of carnal weapons, such as handguns, rifles, or other firearms, for protection against other humans."

What? Um, excuse me.... but that is a stretch isnt it? Where does it say that? What scripture are we referring to? Oh, that's right, there isnt one...

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A Christian might decide to own a firearm (such as a rifle or a shotgun) for hunting animals for food or for protection against wild animals. When not in use, though, such weapons are best kept unloaded, perhaps even disassembled, and safely locked away.

.... where it will do no one any good if needed, as it is in pieces in a box in the garage....thanks for the GREAT advice T'Mo.... you all stay in your lockable bunker with food service and laundry, and watch the real world out your lakefront window.

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"When Jesus told his followers to equip themselves with swords on the final night of his life on earth, he did not have protection in mind. (Luke 22:36, 38) Rather, Jesus had them bring a sword for an object lesson to teach them not to resort to violence, even when confronted by an armed crowd. (Luke 22:52)"

BULLS**T !! Just plain BS! Says who?? Are we just making this crap up as we go along, to fit the general agenda??? C'mon.... People carried swords for protection! There was no "object lesson"!

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Thus, if a mild tongue fails to stop an armed robber, wise Christians heed the principle embodied in Jesus’ words: “Do not resist the one who is wicked.” It may even require that we give up our inner and outer garments, so to speak.

Oh MY GOD! A MILD tongue???? "Please kind sir, can you stop beating and raping my wife and daughter, no really, please. For real, pretty please. This is not proper. I just wont stand for it! Stop now! "sigh" No? Ok, well.... ok, I will just wait until you are done..... All done? Can I read you a scripture? How about a quick video, I think we have time.....Ok, now go in peace, be blessed. And here, take my jacket and my car and my wallet...." ...."at least I'm a TRUE Christian"...

Screw that! The dude is getting as good of a thrashing as I can muster! Or worse!

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"How a Christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment."

WTF??!! But dont you dare actually protect yourself, or be PREPARED to protect yourself, because then you showing to everyone that you arent a TRUE CHRISTIAN! on the contrary...Its ENTIRELY a PERSONAL matter, and none of your GoshDarn business!

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"Out of regard for those principles, spiritually mature Christians choose not to keep a firearm for protection against other humans. They know that true and lasting security comes to those who demonstrate trust in God by living in harmony with Bible principles."

So you and you and you and YOU are NOT spiritually mature Christians. Because we say so. Demonstrate your trust in a God who wont do diddly squat if your family or you yourself are in danger. Live in harmony with Bible principles..... and be dead/maimed/raped/etc.

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In conclusion... these guys that live in their little granite castle on the lake in Upstate New York are just getting more and more ridiculous by the minute. As LongHairGirl pointed out, any little glimmer of personality or self-reliance is a direct affront to these buffoons and their ego-maniacal way of life. I am continually amazed at how much they want to control EVERY SINGLE aspect of their follower's lives. I am even more amazed at how much their followers LET their lives be controlled! CULT 101, for sure. I think that the longer they print crap like this, and hateful messes like the shunning video, the more REAL thinking people they will continue to lose.

Morons. Just morons.

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Protect Your Family??

by Tech49 in

here is an article in the current study copy of the wt.

tell me your thoughts and i will tell you mine.!

this is a topic that i am very sensitive about, as i could never see not protecting my family, even if that meant using whatever means at hand to do so!

Tech49

Ok, so here's some of my thoughts:

For some who dont like guns, or where they may be completely illegal to even own....Now, I dont play baseball, but if I have an aluminum bat next to my bedroom door, for the "just in case" scenario..... does that make me no longer a "true Christian?" Am I supposed to be ok with letting my wife and daughter get assaulted, raped,.... or worse.... because I dont want to break "bible principles?"

Respect other's consciences??? How about if I dont tell them, and they mind their own business!

Tech49

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This one just popped up for the Pacific NW.

(forwarded to me by a friend)

Dear RBC/LDC Volunteers!

Final Northwest RBC Liquidation

Private Pre-Sale

Sunday Auction

Hurricane Disaster Relief