Posts by DJS
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
Viola,
I remember it well also. It was disgusting that he betrayed his girfriend and partner with her daughter. You can cross out young adult females all you wish. That won't change the truth. I hate pedophiles and chld molesters, probalby more than you. I love facts and fairness a lot more than you. Creep alert? BS. You know nothing of me. Grow up. The world doesn't revolve around your judgments and closed mindedness. And you still haven't told me what Mr. Allen got away with. He likes young adult females. That is his business. None of yours. Cross it out again. Call me names again. That won't change the truth. If you have evidence otherwise, please present it.
Mr. Allen's statement, and the facts, are also compelling. Read some of the analysis of those in this thread. You believe what you wish to believe that supports your tiny little judgmental view of the world. He is still with Soon Yi. She was an adult when all of that transpired. No one forced her into anything. Get over it. As I have stated before, I do not know if he is guilty of molesting Dylan or not. Neither do any of you. Facts please.
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
I wouldn't have done what he did. I believe child mostesters are horrific people and should be dealt with accordingly. But I would like the legal process to decide. Not jaundiced closed minded judgmental idiots.
Soon Yi was an adult. So was the other young woman he dated. And he wasn't related to Soon Yi, a point which has been made repeatedly in this OP or which you could have found by 5 minutes of googling. Youn googled the pope song, obviously because it met with your narrow minded, judgmental view of the world. Try googling things you don't agree with and actually learn something. Keep showing your ignorance. If he likes young ADULT females that is nobody's business. Not yours. Not mine. Not the worlds. It is not illegal, nor immoral. Get over it. Or not. Your ignorance helps my case.
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
He was found gulity; a foreign country, out of the control of the U.S., will not extradite him. The only pass is the lack of sending him back by the Swiss or wherever he is now. Do you think the U.S. should send Ms. Knox back to Italy?
We don't have to keep repeating anything, dear. We agree with you on Mr. Polanski. That has not a damn thing to do with Mr. Allen. Grow up. Buy a clue.
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
Viola,
Clearly you haven't read a damn thing. Or you have and your ability to make congitive, rational decisions is broken. Roman Polanski got a 14 year old girl drunk and had sex with her. Mr. Allen, unless you know otherwise, has had relationships with two (we know of) adult females of their own volition, one of which he has been married to for a long time. So what did he get away with? And please stop calling 18-21 year old females children or making them out to be victims. Society rarely if ever has such empathy for males of the same age, and yet science attests that females mature physically, emotionally and psychologically years before males.
Mr. Allen has done some unethical things, the only one of which I can think is having a relationship with an adult Soon Yi, who was the child of his girlfriend. Jerry Springer stuff. Not Polanski stuff. Now again. Just what did he get away with?
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
Gentle Dawn illustrates my point. Don't bother to do a bit of research, just make hysterical statements and accusations. An hour of research on this topic would or should have stopped most of these types of comments. Geesh. Enough already. Try not to enter any debate, team, unless you know what you are talking about. And if you don't know what you are talking about (i.e., The Rev), stay out of it. And when you do enter a debate, stick to one thing: the facts.
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
Yes to boundary issues. Agree.
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Florida man shoots teen
by designs inmichael dunn pulled into a convenience store parking lot next to a suv full of teenagers who were playing loud music.
he asked the teens to turn down the music, it is uncertain what words were exchanged at that point.
michael dunn then shot 4 times into the driver's side of the suv.
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DJS
Dunn seems to be in the same mold as the old white ex cop who killed the man texting in the movie theater. I believe it is an epidemic. Old white guys who can't stand the world because it isn't like they want it to be or used to be. Texting may be annoying but it isn't worth shooting someone over. Oh that's right, dumbass was afraid of the popcorn. I guess that teaches you not to bring a bag of popcorn to a gun fight.
Dunn seems to be the same. Young black kids playing their music, which he hates, too loudly. Drive away Dunn. Call the police. It is an excuse or opportunity to vent their pent up rage. Angry old white guy syndrome. You can see them on Rush Limbaugh's show or watching Fox News. They are or feel powerless to change the world back to the good ole days when dumbass white guys ruled everything. They hate that people of color, gays, lesbians or anyone else not exactly like them succeed or thrive. My father fits this mold; i can't stand being around him.
The best thing about this is that within a few years these morons will be off the planet. Yes, sometimes people are rude. Walk away Renee. Or utilize the appropriate means to address, such as management, the cops, etc.
The Rage of the Angry White Male Continues Its Battle Against Equality
Friday, 22 November 2013 11:45
By Mark Karlin, Truthout
Michael Kimmel, expert on male gender issues (Michael Brands, The Aspen Institute)
Is there hope that the ugly, hateful era of the angry white male might come to an end in the United States?
Michael Kimmel, author of Angry White Men: American Masculinity at the End of an Era, believes that the incendiary rage of many resentful white males will ultimately succumb to an altered cultural context.
"Angry white men rage for our attention, yes, but that era of assumed male entitlement to all the positions of power and wealth is coming to an end." Kimmel told Truthout. "Men can be dragged kicking and screaming into that inevitable future, or we can accept it and ask what it means for us."
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
Steve2, ditto to WMF. It would help the discussion if participants would at least qualitfy their rants. I don't defend Mr. Allen; I do not know whether he was guility, but so much of the tripe that people express as 'proof' or 'evidence' is just that. Tripe. This case, like any other, should rest on the facts, all of which will never be known. You did in your previous post what I have been avoiding; actually rationally addressing the hysterical 'facts' displayed by too many on this board. Based on my research, he had a sexual relationship (and took pictures) of an adult 21 year old Soon Yi. That is fodder for a couple of Jerry Springer episodes and it is major betrayal of his partner. And yes it suggests some ethical problems. But it is not a crime. (Please see the female lawyer's ridiculous diatribe in an earlier post that he 'obviously doesn't see anything wrong with it." - that's because, beeyotch, there isn't anything WRONG with it. Dating an 18 year old looking for a father figure is opprotuntistic (and suggests he likes young adult women, well effing duh), but it is not a crime. It is not immoral nor is it wrong. Making a movie about a 40 something and a 17 year old female (who has reached the age of consent I believe in almost if not all states) may not be one's cup of tea, but it is NOT, I repeat NOT a crime. And it does not make him a pedophile.
Those railing against the age difference would do well to ask themselves if they feel the same pious (excuse me but I'm about to vomit at all of the judgmentail comments on this board) feelings towards Anna Nicole Smith, who married an octogenarian with one foot in the grave and one foot on a banana peel. Or those hot very young women who look for a sugar daddy (I believe there is even a website for such), or who read "how to marry a millionaire," or Courney Stodden who very knowingly and manipulatively married a much older man, hoping it would further her 'career.' And on and on and on. It is the way of the world, people. Get the eff over it. Life and all that is in it doesn't revolve or evolve around your petty little judgments.
I also read in several report that the housekeeper recanted her story about hearing the abuse, stating Ms. Farrow pressured her. And folks, like it or not, passing a polygraph (you can't buy one of these at Walmart and get Bubba, your best friend, to administer it people) is strong.
I'm sick of the judgmentalism on this forum. Let the facts be what they are. And also, in rebuttal to the lawyer's comments about the 'tired old story' about the mother fabricating abuse. I have reviewed lots of data the past few days; several long term studies of such accucsations during divorce battles suggest nearly 60 percent of such accusations have been deemed by the EXPERTS as FALSE. This 'tired old story' is neither tired nor old. It is relevant to the case.
I would wish that the participants on this forum: become more intelligent; become more sophisticated; lose your judgmentalism; learn to rely on facts rather than your pre-conceived 'feelings' 'beliefs' 'prejudices' etc. Geeesh. Some of you were a good fit for the GB and the JWs. They didn't change you; you were moths to a flame.
And Steve, again well stated and I am very sorry for your experiences and hurt.
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Woody Allen speaks out
by NewYork44M inwoody allen wrote a very compelling article in the op-ed of the new york times.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html?ref=opinion&_r=0.
have you ever been accused of something you did not do?
if that happens, what do you do?.
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DJS
Well stated Adamah,
I have researched this mess and many experts say the same thing; we will never know, both are screwed up and Dylan and Woody both have some compelling statements to make. I am annoyed as usual by the black and white, right and wrong, judgmental comments by so many on this topic. As usual. No one wants to qualify their statements. They toss around words like 'proof' as if there is any. And so many of the 'definiitive' statements made in this OP threat are pure bullshit. Twisted, false, half truths or something someone read that supported what they wanted to believe withour reading any rebuttal to their 'facts.' This site distresses me. If Mr. Allen is telling the truth his arguments are compelling. If Dylan is telling anything near the truth her arguments are compelling. Either way, if I'm on that expert committee back when all of this occured, I would have 'voted' just as they did. The DA still could have taken it to trial. And lost.