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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

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  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  I don't like watching fat people eat, but I deal with it.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  If a company establishes a bonafide occupatonal qualification (BOQ) for a job, and this is clearly stated in the job description, it has the right to expect the task performed regardless. This is an HR question, and companies are protected by law. But the BOQ must be legit and the job description specific enough to address it. Some companies make allowances based on relgion, and that is their right. But the law protects companies based on the 2 things mentiioned.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Alright bitcches, listen up. Professor DJS is going to give you an overview of how economics and ethics work together in modern day capitalistic countries. And for those of you who wonder, yes, I have studied both subjects at the Master’s level and taught, for several years, both subjects at the college level.

  Organizations and businesses are egoist, which means their decisions are typically based on self interest and that this is just and proper. Profit is not a dirty word, for example. Capitalism was built on this, and it works well – to a point.

  The U.S. government rests on the foundation of the Constitution (life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and general welfare for all), and operates typically in a utilitarian manner, (for the common good), which means that actions should be directed toward achieving the greatest happiness for the greatest number of individuals, or all of society, and would seek a balance of justice, freedom and fairness. The Constitution (which was a revolutionary document crafted by visionaries) is predicated on these concepts.

  Balancing these two views is the skill-set which makes great countries. Both are correct. One isn’t ‘right’ and one isn’t ‘wrong.’ Governments in capitalistic countries seek to create a thriving business environment for a strong economy while balancing the need for regulation (environment, social, etc.), justice and fairness for all. But governments, according to Adam Smith’s perfect model, shouldn’t directly support or subsidize businesses, unless those businesses impact the country’s ability to feed and protect itself. Otherwise, failing businesses should be allowed to fail. Textiles? Let them go to Mexico and replace textiles with semi-conductors. Banks? Let them fail and be absorbed by other banks. Chrysler? Let it go the way of the wind and see what type of Phoenix, more beautiful and efficient, is re-born in its place. The recent bailout of the banks deemed to be TBTF (too big to fail) was more political response than reality. Other banks would have absorbed the failed ones, and the economy would have rebounded stronger for it. But many weren’t able to accept the short-term political and economic impact.

  That’s the way Adam Smith envisioned a perfect economic model. He was right. But we humans – and our congressmen/women - don’t want the textile industry to go away if we depend on it for food or political power. We don’t want Chrysler to fail if we work for Chrysler or within the supply chain. And so on. The egoist, some of which rail against government controls, etc., seeks assistance from the universalist when they need it (bail me out, subsidize me, build a wall around me, keep those mean Chinese away, increase tariffs, etc.). As expected. The egoist will always think of themselves first and last.

  The egoist (businesses) also seeks assistance from the universalist (government) by lobbying for and demanding better roads, schools, airports, utilities, etc. to help its business thrive.

  So it comes off as more than a bit hypocritical for a business, a completely egoist enterprise, to think it can serve only who it wishes, especially when it has asked and gotten so much from the government – which has a competing interest of the common good for all – that has helped make their business thrive. And how many of you haters have or have had government backed school and/or home loans, lived in subsidized housing, were on food stamps, welfare, WIC, worker's comp, etc., etc.. To paint with such a broad brush about the mean ole violent government, especially when one has benefited from it so much, is hypocritical.

  Those businesses which discriminate against others, even or especially based on their own peronal relgious beliefs, are on very shaky ground when it comes to the U.S. egoist/universalist capitalistic environment and the U.S. Constitution. To try to hide behind religion is a sham, and the courts have consistently upheld the rights of all citizens when they faced such discrimination. Courts in state after state are ruling that discriminating against gays is unconstitutional and numerous anti-gay marriage laws have been overturned (many of these decisions are currently stayed based on appeal).

  Deal with it haters.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Viviane,

  Well done young lady. You should work at the zoo, as your ability to control chimps is outstanding. What a lot of bigoted and stupid posters don't quite understand is that their business doesn't exist in a vacuum or shangrrla of their own making. Businesses thrive based on an enormous amount of GOVERNMENT support, seen and unseen. Yes, taxes pay for this, but roads, schools, safety, security, etc. that is provided by this process makes it possible for businesses to carry on business. When you open a business in the free market capatilistic/government regulated environment you enter this partnership; whether you are too stupid to realize it is your own problem. Or I propose a new strategy R2: open your business in the boonies without running water, electricity, government paved roads, schools to supply qualified people, and all of the other services and infrastructure necessary to make businesses thrive. And see how long you make it.
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  "the world has never been worse" - not according to this website..

  by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

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  next week's wt is full of helpful encouragement not to believe satanic propaganda that might tell us that the world is getting to be a better place to live in.. .

  well, i stumbled across this article here, that contains lots of so-called 'facts' and 'figures', i'm sure glad i read my wt first so i can recognise that this is nothing but lies, all lies.. .

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  Space,

  This is some of the most ful blown full of yourself ridiculous BS attempt to disprove an OP I've seen in a while:"governments continue to get overthrown, private banks bankrupt countries, and governments spy on everyone." Such reactionary, emotional, irrational and plain wrong stupidity. Ah, the Internet. It allows anyone with a keyboard and Internet account to spew garbage. And quickly collect together a cadre of like minded dumbasses.

  Your rant in no way disproves anything. Banks fail. So effing what. Governments spy. Well they always have; they simply have better means to do it now. And guess what? We have laws to counteract that now, which didn't exist for, I don't know, for-effing-ever. Absurb post. The types of facts in this article have been used repeatedly in the past to illustrate clearly we are in the best time ever.

  Which time would you and your chimps like to go back to? Remember now Space, for 100,000 years, including the year 1900, the average life span of a human was 34. So you and the other chimps better check the clock before responding.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Vivane,

  Thanks for dealing with this dumbass. We have the same discussions each time this topic comes up. Basically homophobes like hate. It is their friend. It makes them feel superior. It levels others to their level. In their minds. And people who hate typically hate. Gays are typically just one of the groups on their hate train. As BunnyTail said: "Ah have an announcement that Ah'm vera vera proud of: Ah am a hate-filled, narrow minded bigoted homophobe. There, ah said it and Ah am proud of it. Yes, I do. I effing hate queers. Ah feel sooo much better now. Thank ya. Thank ya vera much."

  Since I told myself weeks ago I would no longer attempt to have a rational discussion with chimps, you, Cofty and Snare are on your own.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Tootired,

  BS. How does not wanting to serve a black person constitute freedom of speech? Now substitute gay/lesbian for black.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Haters,

  You will like yourself a lot more - and the world around you - if you can learn to give up your bigotry, prejudices, biases and hatreds. You really will. And your digestion will likely improve. And you might even make a friend. Giving up my pre-judgments from my days in the Borg is one of the single most treasured aspects of leaving it all behind.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Lambsbutt,

  I hear a lot from those like you who speak of the gay rights band wagon. Is that the same as the civil rights movement and the blacks pushing their agenda in the '60s, which so many white people despised and resisted? Be proud. And arrogant. It's America. Those die-hard racists from the '60s are just that. Dying. And good riddance to them. The world is changing, and those who hate gays and discriminate against them - or are glad they are being discriminated against - are becoming fewer and fewer. Thankfully. They are 'dead men walking" and won't be around in another generation.

  I've never felt a gay agenda being forced on me, isn't that amazing? And even if there is a small vocal and active group 'pushing' gay rights, that isn't any different from all of the other rights' movements, for women, blacks, immigrants, etc.
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  Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to bloomberg news:.

  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

  "the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

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  Freedom has consequences, yes. Just how do you think that applies in this instance? A gay person and a black person are both born that way. How is a gay person being gay or a black person being black supposed to have consequences? Am I missing something?