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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

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  BOC,

  One of these pranks is going to result in a physical attack or a geriatric Dub dying of a heart attack during the event. Then the dumbass pranksters will be sued. These are the types of things that inevitably occur. About 4 months ago there was another one of these videos posted, except the pranksters entered the KH before the meeting began with video cams in hand, creating a commotion and marching around the hall. I've worked with church groups developing active shooter and other security related plans and programs. Some of them have such plans, including armed deacons. It doesn't take much to imagine one of those deacons opening fire if such an event occurred in their church.

  The Dubs may be pacifists, but sooner or later someone is going to get hurt and someone is going to get sued and potentially incarcerated. Welcome to the real world he said to me, condescendingly.
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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

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  Yeah pbrow,

  You've made your point. Over and over and over. We GET it. You think these types of rude, disrespectful, possibly illegal, potentially dangerous, stupid, childish, couter-productive, moronic, narcissistic, egocentric, immature, sophomoric look at me taking a selfie stunts are just wonderful. I predicted that those in favor of these idiotic stunts would dig in. And you have. You just keep repeating the same nonsense. As I've stated before, this is the world wide web, where ANY dumbass viewpoint or opinion can immediately collect a gaggle of like-minded dumbasses who feel the same way.

  Whatever the Dark Lords did in no way excuses these types of stunts. Dig in some more.
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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

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  prbow's comments illustrate a consequentalist view, which means that the end justifies the means. This type of view typically is valid only when there are no other viable alternatives. There are a lot of ways to reach born-ins and others that do not include these types of disrespectful, counterproductive actions. In addition, a consequentialist issue typically doesn’t involve pranks and being punked, which insults our intelligence. Consequentialist issues typically deal with very real ethical decisions.

  Continuing to respond in a reactionary manner as if this is a critical component of reaching the Borg is immature and completely un-supported by any data.

  Another thing I notice for each of these incidents, including the last one where I think it was Cedars who recorded his prank call to a GB member, and that is the pranksters are completely egocentric, narcissistic, posing, look at me individuals. It is clear to me that their intent isn’t to reach poor little born in dubs; it is to disrupt while bringing attention to their narcissistic selves - the selfie generation on steroids. Ashton Kucher wouldn’t even be proud of these idiots.

  But the young males will dig their feet in and continue to respond in a manner that suggests their pre-frontal cortices haven’t solidified (and they haven't). We have the same conversation each time one of these is posted.
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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

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  jdubsnub,

  Ditto. It wasn't funny. It was disrespectful, rude, and counter-productive. But similar OPs seem to fall into a generational and gender like/dislike of these types of sophomoric actions. In other words, these types of incidents seem to play well with males under the age of 35 or so. I"m watching this as an ex-Dub who has no love for the Dark Lords and I'm feeling sorry for the rank and file at this Memorial.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

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  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  EOM,

  You made a bit of sense until you kept yapping:

  "If you are a caterer, dj, photographer, etc, and you do work that involves driving to a clients location, you should have EVERY RIGHT to refuse a job for any reason."

  You clearly haven't been paying attention the past 100 years or so as the courts have interpreted the Constitution. Your wishes or desires are childish and immature. Find another country or planet that will allow you to legally discriminate in such manner. We have adequately addressed your whining in this OP; the SCOTUS and the Constitution addressed it a long time ago, and continue to do so with the recent cases supporting gay marriage and the rights of gays to not be discriminated against in commerce and business. Grow up. Your childish attempts to have the final word in this matter is obvious to all. Your point of view has been heard and dismissed by the evidence. Deal with it.
  
  
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  Christian self-righteousness

  by fulltimestudent in

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  doesn't matter what brand of christianity - this cartoon says it all:.

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  DJS

  FTS,

  Excellent. I have stolen your cartoon and made it mine. Thanks.
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  More Anointed Join the ranks

  by paulmolark in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was an elder we had a sister who was known for providing oral pleasures to some people in the congo.

  i was on the committee.

  this girl for some odd reason was put on public reproof 4 times for the same thing.

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  DJS

  She clearly has an oral obsession. What did you say her name was? And do you have any contact information? I may be able to 'help' her with her affliction
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  EOM,

  I read that and I agree with you. That type of behavior accomplishes nothing.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  NeverADub,

  The one thing I do like about Libertarians is that they seek to limit government's reach into our lives. I believe we need them on the wall as a counter-balance to those who believe government should control everything. I believe government should do only what is necessary; the issue is one man's need is another man's want and another man's indifference.
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  Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

  "oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

  you're fired!"..

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  NeverADub,

  Yes, as I mentioned in one of my initial posts, churches and religions have not faced any serious threats or incursions, including in the recent past, for rituals, policies, etc. that occur within the church and are church specific. The laws protecting and securing gay rights do not infringe on religious institutions - only on commerce or state supported agencies such as a justice of the peace or one conducting civil weddings.

  That, based on the separation of church and state where commerce is an interest of the state - not the church, is what the framers of the Constitution evidently had in mind. They were geniuses. The courts have consistently ruled in this manner for a loooooonnng time. It amazes me that so many have been so unaware or delusional about how the US works.

  One poster commented that Canada has forced a church to marry gays, but I cannot find any references to it. I kinda sorta doubt it. I do believe that some countries in Europe - Scandanavian I think - are moving toward requiring churches to perform gay ceremonies. They have a different framework for both religion and constitutional rights of which I am no expert. I'm not aware of gay couples trying to force REAL churches to marry them; I will research to see if it has occurred. I agree with you on this point. There are many other options.

  Religions were neither threatened nor impeded in any manner when laws supporting gay rights to marry and to not face discrimination in commercial, for profit engagements were passed. The X-tian right and fundies would have us believe they are the ones being 'forced' and discriminated against, which is not only completely untrue but in my eyes is obscene. The laws recently passed on in the queue in the various states, and I will say this again, were mean-spirited attempts by the X-tian fundies and the Far R. politicos to keep the door forced closed against gays and were driven by their anger at losing so many battles in the courts (38 states allow gay marriage, more are on the way). The laws were not necessary, did nothing to secure religious freedom and were intended to put gays back behind the door.