Thanks Heaven,
You just outed yourself: "My mind is very logical."
You are really a guy! ;-)
http://national.deseretnews.com/article/4645/why-more-young-women-are-leaving-church.html.
stock photo a kulicki .
faith compiled by massarah mikati sunday, may 31, 2015 why more young women are leaving church.
Thanks Heaven,
You just outed yourself: "My mind is very logical."
You are really a guy! ;-)
imagine three single sisters who qualified to be appointed as elders in the congregation.
they qualified because they started reaching out in their early teens.
persistently and methodically they worked their way through the ranks by pioneering then becoming a m.s.
my name is alex.
i have been a reader/lurker of this site for over a year now.
first time i am posting.
Alex,
Welcome to freedom and JWN. We are glad to have you here.
shit!
it finally happened.. years ago i speculated on this happening but can't find the posts.
anyway, this is a tactically aggressive move by wt.
Paladin
Ditto. And from what I see you all say, the Dark Lords have interjected 'apostate' into the revised edition of the NWT. Linking apostate with the anti-christ is another tactic in an overall strategy designed to thwart their greatest enemy right now. Us.
They are evil men, deserving of whatever evil befalls them.
i don't know if i have shared this with everyone, but there seems to be a new theocratic term, at least in my circuit.. the term is "final push.
" wtf does it mean?
well, an eldub said that the gb are "all in" with warwick and they might spend all their money on the project.
John Aquila, great picture! Why is it that hot girls look amazing no matter what they are doing? BTW John, I'm glad you are on the site; you add a lot to it. And is your avatar Dexter?
Kairos, pushing and cllimaxing? So this IS a sex OP!
Steve2 - Funny, but you are forgetting about the Final Push New Light Version and the Final Push V.5.0 and the Final Push Tour 2034 . . . . .
As we have mentioned, all the Dark Lords have is appealing to and manipulating emotions. Sadly, that is all they need.
what is god's spirit?
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i ask this of those who believe in god.
Stan,
"i used to pray for the holy sprit to help me stop masturbating. it worked !!! i stopped hundreds of times. so there's proof the holy spirit exists."
Just hundreds?
i'm reading a very interesting book right now " why our children will be atheist ".
i've just started the beginning of the book but it starts off with a history of how religion developed through the ages of mankind.. one of the points it make is that religion was invented for two reasons 1) to alay fears about death and the future 2) to create a bond between other people.. i found this thought to be very interesting and i wonder if the need for those two components were removed from mankind would religion disappear too?.
Social services provided by governments and secular agencies have created a system whereby religion has lost much of its influence. Economic development, jobs, financial security have also resulted in the lessening of religion's influence.
The growth of other charitable causes, clubs, organizations, etc. has removed the need to bind together in a pointy (or round) topped building in order to fellowship and commiserate.
The widespread availability of education, especially higher eduction, which (well supposedly) teaches people how to think critically and evaluate and analyze data empirically greatly lessens religion's influence.
Birth control, antibiotics, advancements in medical treatments/pharmaceuticals have also lessened religion's influence. In many areas women can act like men have for thousands of years ant not fear pregnancy, for example (and thank god for that!).
The social evolution of industrialized societies includes an acceptance of gays, transgenders, living together and having sex without marriage, birth control, etc. without the condemnation imposed by religion. Religion is quickly losing its grip as a result.
That leaves one thing - a belief in a here-after. The more rational we become that will also fade. That belief isn't based on anything that is rational; there are so many differing beliefs regarding the afterlife that to think any of them are relevant is sticking one's head up one's ass and continuing to believe simply because one wants to believe.
Whether there is an afterlife, religion has nothing, I repeat NOTHING, to do with it. Once humans understand this, religion will lose its final influence. The only places religion will continue to flourish are those areas or religions that do not include one or more of the above mentioned factors.
Educated priests and religious leaders and ministers know this. Google the following article.
watchtower september 2015 study edition, "stand firm in the faith," paragraphs 16 and 17:.
following jesus example, we must read the bible daily, study it, and meditate on what we learn.
along with general bible study, dig into topics about which you may have questions.. you can imitate jesus by meditating on the wonderful promises jehovah has made to you.
LisaRose: "Hope is a very powerful thing. Getting people to vividly imagine something very positive, like meeting a much admired person, will cause people to put up with a lot of bad things. It's cult manipulation 101."
Ditto. Which is exactly what FusionTheist is trying to do with us. He has made 39 OPs in two weeks. He tried chastising us early on (how did that work out for you FT) but has quickly switched to posts like this to engage us. I will have to say that FT learns quickly and excels at making Dark Tower OPs that don't really preach to us but draw us in to the Dark Tower's lair. At least that is what he appears to be hoping.
I'm glad FT is here; he seems to be 51% Dark Tower apologist and 49% one of us. The longer he stays that percentage is almost certain to change. The Dark Side, Luke, beware of the Dark Side. Come on in FT, the water's fine.
The Dark Lords, moving forward, have only one arrow in their quiver, one tool in the toolbox. And that is playing to emotions. Serious scholarship will seriously kick their sorry asses, resulting in humiliatingly having to spin, cover up and change teachings and resulting in the few remaining sentient dubs beginning to question things.
Emotions are all they got. Sadly, Emotions are all that are necessary to Believe.
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.
started 5/27/2015.
Why would they pay? They are Jesus' brothers, the hand-picked rulers of the world who are immortal. If I were them I wouldn't pay either. Jah or his son will sooner or later rescue them.
Or not.
if you are a current practitioner of some religious faith i would appreciate it if you abstained from this thread entirely.
im curious if anyone has had what could be discribed as a spiritual experience.
i'm currently reading sam harris book waking up and it's very good so far.
Thanks Xanthippe. I avoid use of the word due to its religious, supernatural connotation, but Harris and others appear to be making its more secular definition relevant. That's probably a good thing. Words have a way of evolving to mean whatever society wants them to mean. I try not to get too hung up on word meanings because they change. Thanks for citing what I was referencing!! You made it much clearer.
To illustrate the blissful experience. This past weekend my GF and I hiked one of the most beautiful trails in the US. The lower elevations were lush forests with streams, bridges, ferns, etc., while the higher elevations were cooler, drier, rockier, with less vegetation but amazing views. Spiritual. Plus I got to follow her up the trail and view her amazing rear end for several hours. Blissful.
However, on the way back down the mountain my GF had to use the bathroom. Very badly. If it were me I would have found the closest rhododendron thicket (that and no cellulite are probably our gender's only advantages), but being a girl she held out as long as she could until, about 1/2 mile from the trailhead, she darted to the bathrooms. I'm quite certain that she would tell you the spiritual moment ended as soon as the immediate bodily need arrived. That's my point made on p. 2 of this OP.
Again, thanks Xanthippe.