Posts by DJS

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Elderly sister disgusted with obscene Bethel 'Happy Song'

by Esse quam videri in

it is reported that one elderly sister in british columbia expressed complete disgust at what she considered an obscene act in the bethel 'happy song'.

now everything is, of course, subject to perspective.

i would imagine her perspective is just as valuable as anyone elses.

DJS

The only thing disgusting in this is the old lady's heart and mind and that she can't keep her narrow minded viewes to herself.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

Your actions are typical of an immature, self centered, egocentric child who has to be right and always get their way. Is there a Ms. Fish? If so I would love to get a couple of drinks in her and ask her if you ever get over anything or if you have ever admitted you were wrong about anything. I would just sit back, keep the drinks coming, and listen to her rant about you.

You have whined, cried, stomped your feet like Rumpelstiltskin, called people names for 27 pages and 266 posts looking for someone, anyone, who would confirm your childish viewpoint. It doesn't matter that the greater wrong was committed by you, and you have yet to admit to any wrongdoing. Nor does it seem to matter that the consensus view, the legal view, the you started it view, is nearly 98% against your sorry ass.

But keep going. As long as you continue to act so childishly the posters and lurkers and those who dig this OP up a decade from now will see what a churlish, whiney-ass person you are. And avoid you, as I have until this OP.

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Facing up to the reality of the world

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

since becoming atheist i have been paying more attention to world events and issues.

this is giving me some worry's when i see what's going on.

as a jw i could just dismiss stuff saying "armageddon is coming, jehovah will look after us" etc etc now of course i can't do that.

DJS

Purr,

What Truthseeker said. We live in the best time of all human history. Yes, there are problems, but believe it or not there was more of the bad stuff previously than now. And remember Purr, atheists should demand or require evidence, which means that we look at everything - not just the bad.

Purr, the average life expectancy for humans, for 100,000 years, was about 24 - 34. In the year 1900 the average life expectancy in the US was 34. Thirty four. And if you were lucky enough to live longer, god forbid that you break something, get a rash, lose a tooth, etc. You lived with it and its dysfunction until you died. Pretttttty.

Which time period would you prefer living in?

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Mexico could make North America the world leader in oil production.

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

anyone have info why this have not been explored.

mexico has reserves of.

oil estimated by industry analysts at 60 billion to 120 billion barrels in the.

DJS

Ditto to what Clambake said.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

DJS

Fish,

Read my last response again; I indicated that I wouldn't have taken it public and that there is certainly an argument to be made about the manner in which Morph handled it. When he first posted this, I did not know he was talking about you. You and I rarely cross paths, as I avoid theist posts out of respect. I sometimes make fun of names; i make more fun of myself than I make of anyone. Well, maybe Metatron (where IS he, my little obsessive, compulsive conspiracy theorist friend)?

Sometimes people make fun of me. I have bit back, hard. I have ignored it, depending on the situation (sometimes I start it). You should have ignored it, IMHO, or shown some contrition. The more you flail about childishly to prove how right you are the more you lose the argument. You called Morph a liar; in a lot of people's books you started it.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

DJS

Fish,

I wouldn't have taken it public. Rational people may agree that it should have remained private. Morph did take it public. Rational people may also understand why he did.

I also wouldn't have sent a list of interrogation questions to Morph; he has been on this site a while and, based on what I have read, has built some credibility. You called him a liar. He reacted.

As long as you continue to act like an irrational, emotional child in this matter, seeing no one's view but your own and learning nothing from this, you will get more of what you have gotten.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

DJS

Fisherman,

You know, if you had shown just a little contrition about the manner in which you machine gunned your questions to Morpheus while holding the interrogation light in his eyes, we would have shown you more love. And almost certainly Morpheus would have answered you privately.

A little contrition would have gone a long way. You could have said something like: "You're right Morph, my questioning overstepped the line between wanting to know so that we might have shared something in common and not believing a fukking thing you have said about being at Bethel and essentially calling you a liar."

He embarrassed you. You deserved it. Grow up or a pair. Matters not to me.

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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

by WildeLover in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

DJS

Sparrowdown: "I agree for all the reasons given in the article that the WT is faced with a decision: adapt ot die.

Reform would be the logical conclusion (put through the WT spin-cycle to emerge as nu-lite of course.)

I 'm just dying to see which way this particular cat is going to jump."

Ditto. Entire books have been written about this (see "Change or Die" by Alan Deutschman). It is common for corporations to be overtaken, at least temporarily, by large social, cultural and economic changes, especially if they have arrogantly or ignorantly thought that they were immune. This 'cat', the Dark Lords in this case, is both arrogant and ignorant.

As some of us have suggested, the re-tooling of their business design has consultant written all over it. It shouldn't be seen as a death stroke, as numerous corporations have rise from the ashes, like a Phoenix, to be re-born as something better.

Having said that, you are spot on (are you really LisaRose??) as usual. Which way will this cat leap. They seem to have placed their trust in whomever is directing the change, for good or bad. The problem with the Dark Lords is cash flow, as we have routinely suggested. Old money, deep pockets and capital gains shouldn't be used for O&M expenses. The cash flow for their business design has dried up, so they've invented a new one.

It is fraught with problems, as they are trying to get operating funds from the poorest and least educated religious group in the world. Good luck with that. Unlike IBM, GE, Apple, etc., they are severely limited with options for new venues for cash flow. The new strategy hinges on one thing, methinks: whether the rank and file will fork over limited $ to the Dark Lords in sufficient manner to keep the engine running.

Once they have to dip into reserve, capital gains, savings, investments, etc. to cover operating expenses on a regular basis, the fat lady has begun to sing.

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