Posts by DJS

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Big Bang or Big Bust?

by redvip2000 in

i noticed on the october issue of the awake magazine a much softer stance on the big bang theory.

now, i'm not sure if officially the org was ever against this theory ( i did not find much on this), but i do recall on a congregation level, there was constant mockery from jws about the idea that universe was the result of a big initial explosion.. we now see a softer position on this.

as the org now explains:.

DJS

Let's take a vote, class:

Big Bang?

Or Big Bust?

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

OC,

I don't know anyone, man or woman, who fits what you describe below. And LisaRose, women often use sex as a weapon whether the man loves intimacy or does nearly everything right in a relationship. Those are red herring arguments. But you two keep blame shifting this to men. The generations coming after you don't look like you, and that is excellent. Sex is sex. Being kind, considerate, respectful and affectionate should be a part of every healthy relationship. But sex is sex.

The economics of sex:

Woman: I want safety, trust, intimacy, etc...then I will give you sex.

Man: I want sex. I will give you those things if I get sex first.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

OC,

"Frankly, if I had a husband that pulled that scripture out of his ass to force me to have sex with him, I would tell him to go fuck the bible and leave me alone. Using the bible to force a woman to have sex with him is one of the worst weapons that a man can use. It's pathetic, actually. Pathetic and pitiful."

I agree.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

From Elite Daily, Dec. 31, 2012 (this got 2.3 million "Likes" on FB)

"Below are the methods of properly training your man:

Holding Out: As some really smart guy (who I can’t remember the name of) once said, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Meaning, every time your man fucks up, he should experience some form of punishment. Since beating the shit out of someone is illegal in this country, I’ve concluded a different and somewhat more effective solution. What better punishment is there for a man than withholding sex? I’m not telling you to use sex as a weapon … actually, yes I am.

Although drastic, not putting out will condition him to never repeat the same mistake twice, or at least repeat it far less. Yelling at him can be a temporary solution, but he’ll never actually understand the repercussions of his actions unless he feels truly deprived. Also, if you are feeling a little deprived and think you can’t hold out any longer, go invest in a pocket rocket."

Men may do it (if so, they are equally vile and wicked). Studies show that the majority of women do it. Double exers have perfected it into an art form. And yes, Steve, this does happen in a vacuum. I've experienced it multiple times with multiple ex-GFs, and not one time was it justified. Not once. Try other methods, XXers. Or find a cuckoldable, weak wristed, spineless man to train. Isn't that attractive in a man.

Not me. Not ever.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

Island Man,

You have provided some very good insight. However, those who "Liked" your post (please god please tell me they were all women - if any were men then they want to be cuckcolded): "She may have an involuntary aversion to being intimate with you due to Watchtower programming about apostates being "satan's helpers". Watchtower programming may have destroyed her attraction to you, as such attraction may have been significantly rooted in your status as a spiritual man. What woman wants to have sex with a demon?"

Here is what I will say to that and what all of us should have thought before "Liking." If Ms. "I Aint Giving Satan a Blowjob" also isn't letting Satan: take her out to dinner at her favorite restaurant; taking her to the concert to see her favorite musical group; snuggling together with popcorn and watching tv; working in the yard together on a project and otherwise sharing life together in a normal, healthy - albeit strained due to the Dark Tower's influence and their current congregational situation - relationship, then your hypothesis has merit.

If Ms. "I Ain't Giving Satan a Blowjob" is allowing Satan to do any or all of the above, she is a vile, wicked woman using sex as a weapon to try and control him. My bet is she's A-OK with everything else Satan is doing for her.

Slip out the back, Jack.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

Dear god,

The blame shifting, excuse making, rationalizing and justifying some of you are providing as legitimate reasons for women to withhold sex is not part of the reason it is a problem. It's the reason.

Find a different method.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

Steve,

Historically speaking you are of course correct. I've never owned a woman, hit a woman, oppressed a woman, abused or neglected a woman. I've never gotten their underwear off by telling them lies, manipulating them, promising them something or by any other nefarious manner. I have treated every woman I've ever been with, with respect - and certainly as much respect as they have shown me.

Having said that, I have experienced what these men have stated they are experiencing. Your posts are usually brilliant; this one isn't. How many women have you dated or been with Steve2? LisaRose? I speak from experience as well as citing experts who say the same thing - using sex as a weapon is the worst thing a woman can do.

We aren't talking about the socio-evolutionary reasons women evolved as they have; we are talking about a hurtful, relationship destroying behavior practiced by a lot of women, none of which is typically justified.

Let's call it for what it is, class. It is relationship destroying behavior.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

GTTM,

As Steve2 and LisaRose and others have pointed out, do your job as a loving, respectful mate. None of you have suggested that you aren't.

If you are, and she is still behaving in this manner and you have tried to discuss it with her, quickly and quietly go to the best lawyer you can find and arrange a better situation.

Top marriage and relationship expert Dr. Tseday Aberra, a clinical psychologist, states that using sex as a weapon is the biggest mistake a woman can make. Find another way to solve the problem, she states. She also states that most women who have come to her over the years have used sex as a weapon against their husbands/BFs. She also states that it is critical for women to change their way of thinking in this area.

Or p.m. me; I have a lot of experience in this area. Women use sex as a weapon because they can. That’s all you need to know. You can do everything damn near perfect and a sizeable percentage of women will still do it. Those are the facts, and they are indisputable.

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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......

by The Rebel in

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i believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.

and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.

furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.

DJS

Rebel, et al make some valid points. Respect is a 2-way street. I promise to be less of a wise ass if some of you all promise to do the following:

Respect debating – Nearly any OP can turn into a debate, and debating is essentially about 2 things – Facts and the Correct Interpretation of those Facts. Anything other than that is a tactic or strategy employed by someone on the losing side of the Facts but trying to ‘win’ points. A taxi driver’s opinion about the lunar landings, for example, should never ever be considered as equal to an astro-physicist’s, unless you can show a compelling reason.

Respect the Topic – If you can’t provide anything useful, avoid typing into the keyboard. Even better, conduct some very good research using the best empirical data you can find on the subject before posting. Understand as much of a 360 degree approach on the topic as possible before posting. And please, stop posting confirmationally biased tripe to support your lame-ass views and opinions. Become an empiricist.

Respect the freedom, access and privileges the www has provided you. Employ the Peter Parker Principle – with great power comes great responsibility.

Respect the Lurkers and Members – If you can’t provide empirical data or something close to it to support your views, frame it as an opinion. If you reach a dead end, stop posting, exercise self control, and stop wasting everyone’s time in your vain, narcissistic attempt to win an argument that you have lost.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

DJS

Are the children grown and on their own? If so, see a lawyer ASAP, get your ducks in a row and Make a New Plan, Stan.

If the children are young, at home or not on their own - see a lawyer ASAP, get your ducks in a row and Get Yourself Free.

"When I first started waking up my wife threatened no sex." Ms. GTTM is withholding sex as punishment. I call those ex-wives or ex-GFs. Now it's B4Right's and Driving Force's wives. They are wicked people; they just happen to control 100% of your sex lives. Let yourselves be emasculated. Internalize the hurt and pain. Remove your manhood and put it on the shelf. Cuckold yourself.

Not me. Not ever.