So girls were made from a penis, huh? So that's why you can't get girls to respond or get anything out of them unless you pay attention to them, kiss on them and stroke them.
I think the prof is on to something.
there are days that i drop to the ground and kiss the earth in gratitude that i was born a woman.
at least women didn't have anything to do with writing the bibble.
and women don't come up with this nonsense.
So girls were made from a penis, huh? So that's why you can't get girls to respond or get anything out of them unless you pay attention to them, kiss on them and stroke them.
I think the prof is on to something.
just a note that 10 years ago, (christmas day, 2005), was my last time inside a kh.
a lot has taken place for the better in those 10 years:.
1. met the love of my life and happily married for 9 years, two days ago.. 2. completed a master's degree.. 3. work at senior management level in the it field.. 4. have a savings and retirement, and no debt outside of a mortgage and 1 car loan.. 5. lots of travel to several places that i never would have done as a jw.. 6. contribute to what i believe are meaningful causes.. 7. read, think, and meditate for myself.. 8. have a great extended family i inherited from my wife.. 9. lots of other great stuff, too much to list.. none of this is intended to be boastful.
Done4good/Jason,
I'm with Magnum; I selfishly want you to stick around. We need as many intelligent, educated, rational voices as possible. Otherwise the zombies will take over!!!! LOL.
You are one of the best on this site. Don't feel like you are bragging. We are all proud of you and your accomplishments. We all need to see what others have accomplished to fuel our post-dub engines that all things are possible.
I did things a bit differently than you. I left before '95 and didn't join any ex-dub site until 2 years ago.
Onward and upward!!! Happy New Year Jason.
i have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.
i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .
my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.
MrsObfuscate,
Your story resonates with us all. You've captured the true essence of the cult you have left behind. It is not a loving, supporting place to be; it eats its own and destroys individuals and families, caring not for the individual nor the individual family. Worship of the Dark Lords is the only thing that is honored.
Welcome to the rest of your life. The only thing I would suggest is to send your and Obfuscate's stories to the ARC. We can provide the email if you need it. Your story is poignant and powerful. Thank you.
news just released in the uk on the bbc news website.
NN,
I found your 'list' on Sean Hannity's website. Hannity is a renowned right wing Clinton hater. That explains your slant but it doesn't explain your lack of real research.
Of the 9, one was adjudicated (Jones) in Clinton's favor; he did pay her to drop it, but he won the case. One was recanted (Ward Gracen), who states that she did have a consensual one night relationship with Clinton. One was investigated (Willey) by an independent counsel who found no wrong doing. Four of the others were either Bill making sexual overtures that were not accepted or grabbing their butts or boobs. Or showing his willie (once).
That leaves two that have any smoke, other than Bill being a boorish womanizer and occasional grabber of butts and willie shower. Clinton had a lot of outside the marriage consensual trysts, including Monica Lewensky. Bad form indeed, but not in the same category as the Cos, who has been accused of drugging and raping 40 - 50 women.
What we can say about Bill is that the legal process was employed in several cases; when it was, there wasn't evidence that he did anything wrong other than betraying Hillary (the talk on the street is that they both like girls and Hillary has had as much freedom to play as Bill). Is he guilty of raping the other two? I do not know, but I wish they had had their day in court so we would know.
news just released in the uk on the bbc news website.
Rat-Again,
Long time no smell!!! Glad to have you back, you lovable, right wing fundie you!!!
news just released in the uk on the bbc news website.
freddo,
I read that. This is the same young lady that he supposedly drugged and raped in 2004. She sought criminal charges sometime afterwards. I read in another news article that the charges were dropped when the Cos agreed to make her a very rich girl. An incentive was the 12 other supposed rape victims lined up to be witnesses in her 2006 trial.
That article was evidently inaccurate, as the local DA decided not to pursue the case in 2006. So the Cos paid a lot of $$ for the young lady's silence thinking the case had gone away forever. I'm sure the young lady signed her silence for the $ agreement, so it will be interesting to see how this proceeds.
If anyone has a clearer understanding, please re-direct. What we know now is that there are about 40 women lined up as witnesses rather than the 12 or so in 2006. The Cos would love for this to go away; I would love for this to continue.
Now if we can get the KY governor to grow a pair and tell the judge to dress Kim Davis back in her orange jumpsuit 2015 would end with a nice little bow.
i know marriage is tough and it takes work on both parts.
we have been together for 27 years.
the last eight have been involved with this cult.
GTTM,
I feel your pain, and I'm sorry the WT cult appears to be destroying yet another family. I may not be the best person to give relationship advice; some would say that asking me for marriage/relationship advice is like asking Dr. Kervorkian for health tips.
In the past 20 plus years I have had several relationships. All of them were functional at many levels. However, I noticed issues of concern very early on in all of them - issues that if not addressed would have eventually ended the relationship. In each instance I discussed these issues with the girls. None of them improved. Oh, some did for a while, but eventually people are who they are. People don't change.
What I'm getting at is that I ended 4 relationships that were '90%' 'good' and functional because of what were relationship ending behaviors - to me - exhibited by these women. I would have rather ended them early than for them to degrade into the war of the roses. Still, ending a relationship with someone you care deeply for and that most of the relationship is good, takes an emotional toll. It takes an ever larger emotional and financial toll the longer it drags on.
No one can determine for you what is the right course, as only you know whether the 90% will stay as it is or if it will consistently degrade until it is only 10% good. Or that it levels off at 70% or 50%. You are the only one who knows what you can accept and deal with for the long term. You need to make whatever decision based on your wife staying in the cult.
Me? I've got very little patience for being with someone or some situation that is causing me pain. I would rather be by myself; but that is me.
Good luck
DJS (aka Dr. Kervorkian Relationship Guru)
this was how it was described to me yesterday by a brother who has been there for some 40 years.
"everyone is about gone; the governing body is set to leave within 2 months; the kitchen and laundry personnel are gone and i have to fend for myself now.".
"also the aggravation of 4 to 5 business men in suits with clipboards daily checking out the watchtower properties.
James,
Do you mean 12/2015? If not you have great powers.
so, it's that time of year again.
here's a few of my predictions.
) no armageddon.
Lostwun,
Once you go pagan you will never go back. I predict that DJS will again promise to try to behave himself on this site. And fail miserably. Again.
I also predict that Viv will return in all her intelligent, smart-alecky, (occasional - when she's been drinking) girl on girl glory (come back Viv, come back) and begin treating us all to what we have come to know and love - the end of OPs where the final 7 pages and 63 posts are between Viv and her opponents, with Viv having them in a head lock down on the mat, and they are having the following conversation:
Oh yes you did! Oh no I di-uhnt.
Oh yes you did! Oh no I di-uhnt.
Oh yes you did! Oh no I di-uhnt.
not all are jw's here, think about the time you could get.
i know you are checking.
don't be shy, no one will ever know.
Make me,
Yeah, those bully Homos are the worst. Especially the dykes. And it's not like anyone ever picked on Them.
Those bully homos are everwhere, not just on this site. Just last week 3 of them forced their way into my house. Two of them held me down and one of them fixed my hair. I'm still suffering from their bullying. But I do love my haircut.
Life was sooo much better when the Homos knew their place, didnt have equal rights and we could hate, mock and deride them while they were hiding in their closets. And feel superior doing so.
Don't worry bunky, your homicidal god and his homicidal son will soon take care of those bully homos. And 7.7 billion others.
I have, however, heard a rumor that Jesus Loves lipstick lesbians girl on girl (really, don't we all). Can you deal with them in the paradise bunky?