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  What I like about being a witness

  by molybdenum in

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  I'm sorry to tell you Molybdenum, but I copyrighted that list in 2002. You WILL be hearing from my lawyers.
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  KH sign.. No "school" mentioned.

  by zeb in

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  recently i saw a posting asking if the australian kh's had the 'ministry school' deleted from their signs.. the local hall does with "midweek meeting" and their is no mention of "ministry ..school".

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  now its a fair guess that all kh will have the same signage at the front..

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  nonjwspouse hit the nail on the head. There are laws in most places that require convicted pedophiles to avoid living/hanging out near 'schools.'

  The change is lawsuit, liability driven. Calling it a school creates a lot of potential issues, such as elders and the Dark Lords taking immediate steps to limit access to the KH 'school' for either convicted pedophiles or those who have flown under the radar due to the Dark Lords' evil policies. Since there are still a lot of these individuals meandering about the KHs, they had no other choice but to get rid of the term 'school.'

  http://www.doc.wa.gov/community/sexoffenders/rulesincommunity.asp
  
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  All Gays Are Perverts

  by Coded Logic in

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  "scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.

  but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.

  --romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.

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  Coded,

  
  

  Some of this stuff I've said before. The LGBT issue wasn't a defining or primary reason I became sick of the Dark Lords. The Dark Lords were the primary reason I became sick of the Dark Lords. However, as I matured and observed the world around me (as a dub-elder), it was apparent to me that people don't tend to choose their sexual preferences. I also began to view what consenting adults do in private as none of anyone's business while still an el-dub. And even if someone isn't born that way, what difference does it make. Besides NONE. If god doesn't have anything better to do than police my privates, then she can kiss my ass. And spend her time in more honorable pursuits, such as end the wars, stop the genocides, the famines, the honor killings  . . . . .

  
  

  But the LGBT issue was definitely one of the primary bricks in my J-dub/theist wall that I evaluated, analyzed and then removed and cast away. In addition to simple observation of the world around me, I recall the exact moment when I looked at my 2 beautiful, amazing, talented children, both of whom I have been crazy stupid close to since the moment they were born, and realized that I could/would never DF them from my life if either or both turned out to be LGBT. I was in the KH, looking at both of them, and realized what a surreal and hate filled world the cult I belonged to was.

  
  

  Within a year or so I was out, along with my amazing children.
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  My brother died last night

  by LisaRose in

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  i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

  it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

  there were six of us, now only four.

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  LisaRose,

  I'm very sorry for your loss.
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  I'm getting baptized

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

  my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

  i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

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  BW,

  If you let them coerce you into baptism, and you can't manage a quiet fade over the next few decades without ending up in the elders' crosshairs, and based on what we hear that will be unlikely, you will resent them with anger as they shun you possibly until they pass away or you get reinstated. Rinse and repeat.

  If you don't get baptised you can keep a relationship with them over the decades. They may use guilt for a while to try to control you, but it is almost a certainty that sooner or later that will fade, especially as you get older stronger and wiser.

  That's your 2 futures.

  Please dont get baptised.
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  I'm getting baptized

  by BlackWolf in

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  i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

  my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

  i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

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  BW,

  That would be a mistake, possibly the worst mistake of your young life and one you will likely regret making for the rest of your life. Baptism into the cult changes EVERYTHING about the choices you make. The cult hates it's young people.

  Please dont.
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  People are paying attention

  by Coded Logic in

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  yes, i read pink news from time to time.

  i'm a gay man.

  so sue me.

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  Coded,

  I won't sue you for being gay if you won't sue me for being straight.

  Well, mostly
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  Angst and the Jehovah's Witness Mindset

  by cofty in

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  there is no typical jw personality type.. any of us who were in the religion for a number of years will remember all sorts of individuals.

  there is as much variety among jws as there is in the general population.

  some were arrogant and judgemental but others were humble and kindly.

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  Best OP ever. Sadly the same end of time nonsense is still alive and well amongst so many in our group. As Elsa said, "Let it go. "

  We are in the best time ever. FMF said it well.
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  New Spiritually Weak Label: Not Using Tablet/iPhone

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. watchtower
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  with last night's meeting it became official: here in the states is a must to keep up with 'jehovah's org' that one fully jumps on board with this tablet/iphone crap.. so, now, all of us that up to this point have refused to follow the wtbts in their electronic/wireless revolution will deal with the browbeating from the 'spiritual' ones.. already receiving lots of grief from hubby and rest of the family/close friends when seen at the meetings with paper publications.

  damn it!!!

  am i alone in this resistance???!!!.

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  Yes, you are alone in this. Now get off my lawn!
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  “Even if this wasn’t the Truth, I need the structure.”

  by Londo111 in

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  2. experiences

  i remember many years back a fellow ministerial servant saying this to me.

  he felt that even if jehovah’s witnesses were not the only true religion, the regimented routine of meetings and field service and the strict rules and enforcement provided a beneficial structure for his life.

  at the time i thought if this wasn’t “the truth”, i’d have no need for all that “structure”.

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  Ditto Londo,

  People who need someone telling them what to do, what to think and how to behave are pathetic weaklings better suited for the ash heap of our species ' DNA history.

  Karl Marx was thinking about them when he made his opiate and religion remarks.

  Now I have to go projectile vomit.