RF and LHG,
I qualified my statements as being directed to chronic homelessness. What you describe is temporary or transitional homelessness.
They are 2 very separate issues. Your statements about this are accurate.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
RF and LHG,
I qualified my statements as being directed to chronic homelessness. What you describe is temporary or transitional homelessness.
They are 2 very separate issues. Your statements about this are accurate.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
Let's all try to help Dog by continuing his Perpetual Pity Party. Yes, that will work. It will ensure that Dog learns from his life's lessons to this point, both what he couldn't control and what he could.
Let's all marinade Dog in victimization. Yes, that will ensure Dog picks himself up, dusts himself off and starts all over again. It will help him to clearly identify the situation he is in and make a plan to fix it at Warp Factor 4.
Yes. By all means, let's continue to placate, enable, molly coddle, excuse and justify Dog.
The truth of the matter, based on his demographics (young, white, angry male with no post secondary education to speak of, no marketable skill-sets and apparently no intention to develop any) and that he has firmly immersed himself in conspiracy theory la la land that Dog's future is bleak at best.
Statistics suggest he will or already is abusing various drugs and substances, has a poor diet, takes unnecessary risks, is irresponsible financially (don't get into a car accident with Dog because he probably doesn't have insurance - and I wonder how much compassion you will have then), he will go from failed relationship to failed relationship, and his life expectancy will be much lower than average.
And the future looks much like the present for Dog until he: 1. Ends the Pity Party; 2. Evaluates his current condition with an honest self appraisal (THAT isn't likely to occur. Dog is more interested in showing off his shiny new CT toy); 3. Make a plan to be in a better place, including ending the bad decisions he is making and replace them with positive actions.
Dog, consider this world class advise from the father who didn't provide it to you: You have 15 minutes to feel sorry for yourself, kick a can, curse those who harmed or neglected you, feel rage at and try to level those you blame for your plight (the rich elders, the rich Jews, the Jewish bankers - are we sensing a theme here, Dog???). 15 minutes to pout, active passive aggressively, blame shift, fit pitch and flail and stomp about.
And 15 minutes to lose your ridiculous pride that is keeping you from moving forward.
15 minutes. After that, suck it up Buttercup, and use the rage and hate in you to fuel positive actions.
Dog, that's exactly what i used to tell my two beautiful and amazing children when they were growing up and something didn't go their way or they had a crisis of their own making or not.
They are both ridiculously successfully and functional, and they will tell you that the loving attention they were smothered with coupled by hard lessons when necessary are the reasons.
Some of you curse me. You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
You are correct. I'm speaking about the US. I know a lot about the homeless issue. I've volunteered at homeless shelters and spent a lot of time working on the issue.
My knowledge is more than anecdotal or experiential.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
Xanthippe,
When you find something I've said in error please point it out. Otherwise my "mood" as you call it is exactly what people need to hear. Enabling them and feeling sorry for those who can help it is a waste of time for everyone.
One of the great tragedies about the homeless issue is that, because of changes in how they are treated and the lack of long term care available, those with mental problems often end up as homeless.
You are correct. To a point. The best experts suggest about one third of the chronically homeless are in their plight due to mentail illnesses.
However, a large % of those with mental and emotional illnesses is due to years if not decades of drug and alcohol abuse. They werent born with it and it isnt due to abuse. It is a choice.
Including some of my family, who drank and drugged themselves into mental oblivion.
That is the norm, not the exception, for a majority of the chronically homeless.
Couple this lack of self control with a desire to avoid work and not follow other societal rules and regulations and you have a defined picture of homelessness.
I spent many years, financial resources and emotional investment on 2 of my brothers to try and help them quit drugs and alcohol, including studying the bible with them when I was a dub and taking them to and participating with them in various 12 step type programs, some of which were paid by the gov.
As is typical they always went back to it and the lifestyle. That is typical of the chronically homeless. So when you feel pity for them remember that nearly every one of them has had friends, family and Uncle Sam bleed tears and cash to fix them.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
GT,
No need to qualify. You are obviously correct. Technical degrees, certifications, etc. are a viable alternative.
My primary point is that a major paradigm shift in the US and other industrialized economies is occurring. It is redefining what being the fittest means. Those adapting will thrive; those who do not won't.
But you can't fix stupid, or Dog (but I'm being redundant), which is why, as that guy jesus is noted to have said, we will always have poor people..
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
The Rebel,
Well stated and double dittos.
i sometimes did work for a lovely old couple who at times needed repairs done around their home.
my wife and myself spent time with them, having tea and crackers from time to time.
one day the husband and myself got into a conversation and he clearly showed himself to be a holocaust denier.
Dog,
You shame the use of the word research. The people on this planet closest to and most knowledgeable about the holocaust have laws making it criminal to teach denial, including Germany, which made it law 31 years ago.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
Besides the fact that Dog is a manipulative, holocaust denying, conspiracy theorist troll, this OP is simply more of the same. Poor little Dog. Hims can't help hims-self. Hims seems to have time, energy and resources to surf conspiracy theorist web sites and come on this site and try to spread his infection - while playing the victim and expressing his rage against the machine - but not the resources to get his lazy ass back in college or technical school and do something about his plight.
More for your consideration:
Personal accountability and poverty (if I have to explain the linkages between these news articles, poverty and personal accountability then I really can't help you):
News item no. 1: Research Shows Link Between Obesity and 8 Additional Cancers, Aug. 25, 2016
News item no. 2: Infants Dependent on Opioids Rising Faster in Rural Areas, Study Finds, Dec. 12, 2016
Misguided compassion is the very last thing any of these fools need.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
The Rebel,
Excellent point. If you have followed my musings you will know that I am 100% opposed to letting people breed and sending them a check, which will let them to continue to breed.
That still does not remove personal accountability from the equation; it simply means the governments are a part of the misplaced compassion. It results in the de-evolution of our species for no other reason than to keep the GDP growing on the one hand and to be fair to governments - to be compassionate to the have-nots.
But all governments are doing, as you rightly stated, is contributing to the have-nots. Whatever in life you subsidize, enable, molly coddle, support, excuse or justify, you will get more of.
Some of you think I'm a bleeding heart liberal; if you knew the depths of my feelings towards enabling the willfully stupid, the lazy and the irresponsible you would think I was somewhere right of the edge of the planet. Once a sufficient amount of resources are thrown at the lazy, the stupid and the irresponsible and it has had no effect, I suggest feeding them to the sharks. Or letting them die under a bridge.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
I've posted data the past few months that shows the majority of jobs during the post recession era, circa 2008, have been to college grads, and especially the higher paying jobs. One of the contributing factors to poverty in the US is the sub-standard wages paid by corporations. The middle class has shrunk and lots of hard working people teeter on the brink of poverty, especially when a crisis emerges such as divorce, unemployment, and before Obamacare - health problems.
The deck, to some degree, IS stacked against certain groups of people. Having said that I will revert back to my original argument: If you don't make a lot of $, and if your job situation is such that you don't really have a pot of gold at the end of your employment rainbow, then the responsible thing to do would be to obtain more education and avoid birthing babies in the process.
If you don't control yourself someone else will. Whether by machiavellian intent or just because that's the way capitalistic markets work some times, our economy is not being kind to the middle class. One can either whine, piss, bitch and moan about it - and vote for and hope the Donald will fix it for you (yeah, right) or one can take ownership of the situation and do something about it. The coal miners in W VA and the blue collar manufacturing workers have, to a disproportionate degree, refused to do anything about it other than whine.
We want our high paying blue collar and coal jobs and we want them now.
Sorry, fools, but that's not how an economy works. Google Adam Smith.
Having said that, corporations that do not pay living wages are subsidized by the US gov., through earned income credits, low or no taxes on low wage earners, subsidized housing and food, etc. It is a broken system for certain, but flailing around as though you have no choices and everyone is out to get you will ensure that you remain exactly where your poor fat ass is right now.