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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

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  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  amicable,

  Fair enough question, but this data was included in the link above, which I have pasted again below. It shows, as an example, that a white male who made it to 20 would on average live 40 more years until he was 60. In 2011 the same white male at 20 would live on average 60 more years, until he was 80. And so on.

  Even so, as long as the data comparisons are the same, e.g. life expectancy at birth, it is a meaningful and fair comparison. Unless you think 1 - 5 year olds are insignificant.

  So regardless of how you view the data we live much longer than in the past. We should all view scientific studies with scrutiny if not skepticism. But science is its own harshest critic and monitor, as Cofty has stated. Additionally, scientific, empirical studies rarely if ever describe their results as definitive conclusions.

  They typically use words such as 'suggests' and 'findings' and they qualify 'conclusions.' Good studies include any problems with the data and almost always identify shortcomings in their own study by pointing out areas or topics on the subject that should be considered for future studies.

  That doesn't mean the process is perfect or that some scientists let bias impact their results. That's part of the human process, but the scientific community will typically rip someone to shreds when they violate the process.

  https://www.infoplease.com/us/mortality/life-expectancy-age-1850-2011

  
  
  
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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  More on OrpanCrow's post;

  In 1800 the health conditions of our ancestors were such that about 43% of the world's newborns died before their 5th birthday. In 2015 child mortality was 4.3% - 10 fold lower than 2 centuries ago. In the year 1850 the average life expectancy at birth in the US was 40.5 for white females and 32.4 for non-white males, with an average life expectancy at birth of between 30 and 40.

  https://www.infoplease.com/us/mortality/life-expectancy-age-1850-2011

  Many years before antibiotics and advancements in health care arrived, the average life expectancy in the US and around the world dramatically increased. Why? Science. Scientists dissevered that treating water with chorine made it safe to drink . We take this for granted now, but circa 1900 this was a dramatic assertion that took years of convincing before it was widely adopted. Disinfecting drinking water and waste water was the single most important steps the world took to increase life expectancies, followed soon by antibiotics, vaccines and other advancements in the health industry. Again, science.
  

  You AOWMs likely owe your lives to the titans who came before you, the scientists and researchers whose primary missions were to make the world a better place.

  Overwhelmingly the cause for shortened life spans and those lived out in poor health in the year 2017 are due to lifestyle choices. Obesity, lack of exercise, drug abuse - smoking, drinking, meth, etc., and the crap so many of our species feels compelled to repeatedly stuff their every growing fat faces with.

  It disgusts me when those with little to no education beyond HS, no experience or real knowledge about scientific issues arrogantly make definitive certitudes and platitudes about the evils and deficiencies of something they essentially know nothing about.

  Show some humility. Or better yet, get yourselves to Google scholar or some other scholarly resource and understand what you are spewing nonsense about. I doubt that any of you AOWM have had a research class, been taught the empirical scientific method and how to develop a scientifically sound study or even read a published study on a topic, conducted by people who have devoted their lives to understanding.

  What you are doing is called leveling, and it really doesn't bring these titans down to your levels. You just think it does.
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  Science may answer the question: Is there a God?

  by Old Navy in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9qkdv6yg3s.

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  Yes,

  The lord certainly works in mysterious ways. Apparently she prefers intervening in countries with health care insurance, excellent health facilities and qualified professionals, a social network that ensures no one has to suffer from abject poverty, essentially full employment, constitutional rule of law with a legal system designed to protect every citizen and a life expectancy around 80.

  Where an abundance of calories has led to 40% being obese and nearly 70% overweight or obese, with disposable income and a lack of self control have led to self induced health problems of such enormity that they threaten to seriously damage the entire country within the next generation ..
  

  … rather than hundreds of millions (billions?) of poor people past and present who actually need such intervention.

  Bitch.

  
  
  
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  Do You Think Jehovah's Witnesses Are Typically Ignorant People?

  by minimus in

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  i think most witnesses are simple minded.many are ignorant.

  there are a lot of basically "good people "in the religion but i believe many are kind of dumb, including many elders.

  do you agree with my thoughts??

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  Hey minimus, we agree!!! Hoodathunkit?

  Definition of ignorant: Merriam Webster

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a : destitute of knowledge or education an ignorant society; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified parents ignorant of modern mathematics
b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence ignorant errors


  Dubs are fundamentalists. Note the following article regarding fundamentalist religious people, from a study conducted by Northwestern University, and intelligence:


  http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/study-finds-link-between-brain-damage-and-religious-fundamentalism

  The researchers define fundamentalism as a cognitive approach that “embodies adherence to a set of firm religious beliefs advocating unassailable truths about human existence.“ They write in their paper that the appeal of such a rigid way of thinking is in promoting “coherence and predictability” within a religious group.

  Other studies have suggested the same thing. Not only are less intelligent people more likely to be drawn to fundamentalism, intelligence appears to be negatively impacted by fundamentalism. It makes sense. Use it or lose it. Duh.

  The Pew Research Center publishes an exhaustive survey of US religions each year. And each year the Dubs rank last in educational attainment.

  So whichever definition of ignorant you want to use, either educated/informed or intelligence, yes, Dubs would rate more highly on average in the ignorance factor based on multiple empirical studies. Averages, people, don't have a fit pitch. Of course there are a few smart dubs. For now.
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  10 years on.....

  by snare&racket in

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  i was a window cleaner, i was at the time unemployed, homeless.

  i had no education to be proud of (high school one a two b's rest c's) i was a jehovahs witness.

  i had been a pioneer.

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  Snare,

  I logged on to this site today, after being away for 7 months, read your OP and had to tell you again how very proud I am of you. You are an inspiration to all of us, as well as my favorite poster ever (Cofty, don't get mad. Your'e my second favorite poster ever. If you would talk to the judge about that restraining order you took out on me you might make it back to no. 1)

  See you guys in another 7 months.
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  mini me. you made this OP. Own it. You don't give a rip about media fairness. If they are unfairly lying about the Dems you're standing behind them giving high fives and fist bumping.

  Hypocrite.

  I've asked you to provide evidence that refutes the media's fact checking of Lying Donald and you provided none.

  Hypocrite.

  I've asked you why you had no moral outrage at the media when they lied about Obama and HRC., and you remain silent.

  Hypocrite.

  Your true colors are showing. Again. You should be viewed as a troll and ignored.

  Hypocrite.
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  @mini me: "Be impartial if you can"

  What the eff? You're the most partial person on a site of biased partisans. And the biggest hypocrite.

  Fact check all media. Every one of them. Believe nothing until you have.
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

  1. social
  2. current

  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  Such as? I can't effing believe you typed that into your keyboard Simon. You're losing touch with reality.

  Obama is a Muslim. Obama is Gay. Birther conspiracies. The Clinton connection to pedophilia and the pizzeria. Et al.

  Radio host Sean Hannity on Tuesday embraced a piece of fake news about President Obama deleting endorsements of Hillary Clinton from his Twitter account.

  http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michael-flynn-conspiracy-pizzeria-trump-232227

  An empirical view from Stanford U:

  https://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/fakenews.pdf

  "For example, during the 2016 campaign, Donald Trump and various online media outlets reopened speculation that Bill Clinton aide Vince Foster had been murdered, whereas the five investigations into his death had concluded that it was a suicide (Kessler 2016). Four official investigations were completed between 1993 and 1995, all of which concluded that his death was a suicide (Kessler 2016). In 1997, independent counsel Kenneth Starr released a fifth report on the matter, concluding that “In sum, based on all of the available evidence, which is considerable, the [Office of Independent Counsel] agrees with the conclusion reached by every official entity that has examined the issue: Mr. Foster committed suicide” (Kessler 2016). Figure 7 illustrates how divergent conclusions on factual issues predates the social media era: as of 1995, 20 percent of Americans reported believing that Foster had been murdered."

  There are dozens, if not hundreds more. And you well know it.
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

  1. social
  2. current

  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  bohm,

  Yes, The Orange One, in addition to being a pathological liar, is a hypocrite like mini-me. His homeboy Flynn was one of the most active fake news creators and spreaders, but that didn't seem to matter to him when he appointed him to one of the most powerful positions on planet Earth. Where was The Orange One's sense of moral outrage? Where was mimi-me's sense of moral outrage when a white, under educated, younger DF version of themselves walked into the pizzeria with a gun a few months ago ready to kill someone due in large part because of Flynn's fake news.

  The Dislike button, all you white, under-educated, septuagenarians and octogenarian echo chambering, flaccid circle jerking misfits, is just a l-i-t-t-l-e bit below>
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

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  2. current

  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  Mini me,

  Where was your sense of outrage about the media when there were dozens of fake and completely inaccurate stories floated about Obama and HRC?

  Strangely and tellingly silent you were.

  Hypocrite.

  You're an echo chamber, without an original thought. A brain dead Ditto Head of Rush, Hannity and Michael Savage.