Cofty,
We ALL know that you and Viv are the same person; you aren't fooling any of us!!! Are you certain Bud's pm was vitriolic? I want to spank Viv too but not because I'm angry at her.
several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.
i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.
indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.
Cofty,
We ALL know that you and Viv are the same person; you aren't fooling any of us!!! Are you certain Bud's pm was vitriolic? I want to spank Viv too but not because I'm angry at her.
so a friend of mine who is still in and knows i am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children?????
there is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore.
no mention of the r"rod of discipline"!
"Weird. I beat your kids all the time. ;)"
Thanks Viv. Somebody needs to. They're Brats. I wonder how THAT happened. No, Wild Thing, I haven't eaten them. Yet.
so a friend of mine who is still in and knows i am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children?????
there is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore.
no mention of the r"rod of discipline"!
I prefer salt and pepper with a nice Chianti. Oh, you mean Beating children! Proverbs 23 is one of the reasons I'm an atheist: "Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die. You shall strike him with the rod And rescue his soul from Sheol."
I never beat or hit my children.
bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.
bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.
degree in chemical engineering.
I still think it was Perry. He seems to have disappeared about a month ago, unless I'm reading the posts wrong. That's just enough time to plan his re-entry, make up a story, change genders, try to get everyone on his side initially. Nicola also didn't flinch when I called her/him Perry. No response at all, which I think is odd for a newbie with no agenda.
He tended to ignore my comments the very few times i entered his OPs and always directed his responses/angst towards others, such as Viv. We saw the same thing in this OP; most of us were more or less invisible once Viv came on the scene. I think he has become completely unraveled just like the picture posted by Village Idiot above.
bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.
bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.
degree in chemical engineering.
Theists often make their entrenched decisions in life based on feelings and emotions, which are all that are necessary to believe. Any thinking or knowledge they seek after making up their minds is almost always confirmationally biased. They avoid evidence or even a 360 degree knowledge based evaluation. That's why they so often show up on this site with the first - or what they think the best - confirmationally biased article that seems to support their beliefs. It is a pattern we see on an almost daily basis.
That is why so many of them become entrenched and frustrated, even when the topic is secular. It is a well defined personality type, but they can overcome it if they want. Like Bono says, "The more you believe the less you know."
bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.
bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.
degree in chemical engineering.
Nicola,
I'm asking Simon to delete you. Your personal attack on Viv is disgusting. Simon???
bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.
bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.
degree in chemical engineering.
bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.
bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.
degree in chemical engineering.
cappytan,
I went through a nearly identical process. I understand.
I'm calling Nicola "Perry" because he/she has a style exactly like Perry. Except edgier. And she is fighting with Viv. Girl fight. This oughta be good. Popcorn.
bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.
bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.
degree in chemical engineering.
Perry,
Your first mistake was relying on an 'authority' whose expertise falls out of the area of their expertise. Using an authority as evidence in your argument when the authority is not really an authority on the facts relevant to the argument is a debating tactic called an appeal to authority. As the audience, (you) are allowing an irrelevant authority to add credibility to the claim being made, and you are expecting us to buy into it, which was your second mistake.
joined the site, not that i have much to share.. i'm married to a jw (wife).
i never have been or will be a jw, i honestly hate the wt (not the jws).
being married to a jw, can sometimes make you crazy, i never believed any of the bs.
rebel9,
I just promoted you. Excellent response. Welcome to the forum highline20. There are a lot of smart, caring people on this site, like rebel8, who can help you navigate through this period and maybe, just maybe, reach your wife with the truth about this cult. I'm probably not one of them because my skills in this area are lacking.