i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
Sowhatnow,
You did research!! I am sooo proud of you. And did you know that Norway is one of the least religious nations?
If you scroll back a few pages I posted similar data. I'm very proud!
Phaedra,
Re scrapping on your thread. Frank Ward started it.
jw girl non-jw guy.
tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.
what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.
Thankyou,
Now That's funny!
i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
A,
I've never referred to any particular nation. I've stated the facts, that the more secular and atheistic a state, region or nation, the More Likely they are to be functional.
I do not understand your continued probing of something I've never stated.
i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
Anathasius,
The entire world is giving you examples on a routine basis, from the United Nations to PhDs who study such things to pollsters who survey such things. See above.
i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
Anastasius,
It matters not what I feel, believe or think. My only objective on this site is to try to get people to follow the evidence, to become empiricists rather than relying on feelings, beliefs and confirmation bias. The following is a very small slice of the evidence. There are tons:
i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
Frank, "This society has changed dramatically for the worse as any decent person will agree. (UK)."
I don't live in the UK, so I will leave most of the response to your statement to those who do. However, the latest figures from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) showed that, for the offences it covers, there was a 7% decrease compared with the previous year’s survey, and the lowest estimate since the CSEW began in 1981. The incidence of rape has increased sharply from the year before, however.
Your personal experiences aside (and I am sorry that you have suffered wrong), the state of the union is better than ever based on the data. The same condition exists in nearly every industrialized nation; the are safer and more secure than ever.
Telling us that things are bad as any 'decent' person would agree is an "Argument from intimidation", which, based on John T. Reed's Debating Strategies, is "its appeal to moral self-doubt and its reliance on the fear, guilt or ignorance of the victim. It is used in the form of an ultimatum demanding that the victim renounce a given idea without discussion, under threat of being considered morally unworthy."
It is an intellectually dishonest (emotional) tactic used by those without either facts or logic.
jw girl non-jw guy.
tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.
what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.
thank you,
You asked for opinions, and you received exactly what you asked for and exactly what you deserved based on the statement - your statement - I copied. Childishly avoiding responding to negative opinions and seeking refuge behind the skirts of those who liked you Sally suggests you are emotionally immature and manipulative.
I made an honest and very accurate assessment of your statement, devoid of any venom. That is not the problem; that is the solution to childish, immature and manipulative people. Suggesting otherwise, or that those who disagree with you aren't normal and aren't optimists is manipulation of the highest level. Hiding behind the skirts of girls kinda sorta proves my point.
Mr. Koresh, you aren't smart enough to play this game with me. Go play with, and manipulate, girls. If you want to play with grown up adult males, I'm right here waiting on you Richard.
i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
Athanasius,
My statement is accurate. The more secular and atheistic a state, region or nation is, the more likely it is functional and happy.
This suggests a strong correlation but not a direct correlation. N Korea is an oppressive dictatorship where state worship is the religion.
jw girl non-jw guy.
tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.
what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.
thankyou,
I'm the luckiest, most blessed and happiest person on this site. An ad hominem attack will get you nowhere.
You asked for opinions. I provided an opinion and quantified it by replicating your statement. That's how this process works. Please re-read your statement I copied. If you didn't mean that, then please explain. Otherwise, I can read that statement a thousand times and come to no other conclusion.
i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
Frank Ward,
It's been a while since a theist made such a definitive and erroneous statement regarding atheists. We used to get them all the time. I believe we quietened the theists by presenting empirical data - you know Frank, it's information that is based on obtained by scientific methods rather than feelings, confirmation bias and cherry picking anecdotal experiences.
As we've presented on numerous occasions, the more atheistic a state, region or country, the more likely it is to be functional and happy. In the annual 'happiest nations' survey, the happiest nations (most of the top 20) are the most secular and atheistic. Sorry to burst your bubble (actually I'm not sorry at all - I derive great pleasure in it), but your statement regarding atheists is completely erroneous. The exact opposite appears to be the case.
One of the questions asked of those surveyed during the 'happiest nation' poll is if the respondent could count on someone in times of need, which is a question designed to measure the quality of community and relationships within communities. The most secular and atheistic nations scored the highest on this question.
I have a ton of this data, available for your viewing pleasure. PM me and I will send it to you.
