@Coded Logic: "On the internet I keep bumping into people who are extremely insistent that our universe could be a simulation."
Man goes to doctor. Says to doc: Doc, I hurt my leg in 3 places.
Doc says to man: Stay out of those places.
Posts by DJS
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12A philosophical question
by Coded Logic inon the internet i keep bumping into people who are extremely insistent that our universe could be a simulation.
while i think it may, in the future, be possible to simulate a high fidelity universe - i don’t think we should confuse the ability to model a universe with the ability to actually build a universe.. .
for example, we can model weather patterns inside a computer.
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Muguruza wins French Open
by LoveUniHateExams inso, garbiñe muguruza beat serena williams in straight sets (7-5, 6-4) to win her first slam - well done, garbiñe.
and i'd also like to say "good".
williams has already won 21 grand slam titles and hundreds of millions of dollars in prize money and sponsorship deals.. she will be 35 years old this september.. isn't about time she pi$$ed off into retirement and started pioneering?.
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MS. Muguruza is a breath of fresh air to women's tennis, which needs it. Ms. Williams is still the best in the world at what she does. What she has accomplished is amazing, and until someone takes her place she deserves all the praise and $ she gets.
As for her thanking Jah. I view that as no more than a talisman or good luck charm. it makes me want to projectile vomit, but it takes nothing away from her talent and hard work.
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Challenge to Creationists
by cofty inin response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.
predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.
entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.
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SBF,
Well stated. Thank you.
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Challenge to Creationists
by cofty inin response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.
predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.
entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.
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DJS
@SlimBoyFat, "If evidence emerged to support creation would you change your mind?"
I'm continually amused and perplexed why theists so often ask this question. Atheists have typically gotten to be atheists because of their rational, analytical analysis of theism. Becoming an atheist to most of us has nothing to do with beliefs, feelings or emotions. It was a decades long journey of a methodical evaluation and analysis of the data. No emotions were involved.
We haven't stopped believing in god because she hurt our feelings.
It is about the evidence, or lack of such for a god or gods.
Of course I would believe if the evidence was clear. If god showed up in Times Square in her leotard and cape with all of the other super heroes and did something cool, let's say get rid of the nukes and stop wars, oppression and injustice of all kinds, I would be the biggest theist around.
All atheists would also believe. Well, they better. Otherwise they would be theists hiding behind an atheist facade. And us atheists know how to deal with them. We shun them and kick them out of our exclusive atheist club.
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Feeling Sad After Uncovering TTATT
by pale.emperor inmy initial pangs of unease and doubt led me to research some things.
well, a lot of things really.
i've never felt comfortable using the bible to try to calculate dates (1914).
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DJS
Everyone is different, so trying to evaluate one's responses to waking up to this cult vs. another's is not wise or fair. Having said that, my emotional responses were:
Humor - laughing at myself for thinking I knew the answers for so long
Humility - see above
A sense of well being - Confirmation that there was a reason for the distress and anxiety I had felt for so long while in this nasty cult and trying to do what jesus would do (vomit)
Anger - At myself mostly, and at the Dark Lords secondarily
Elation, Joy, Satisfaction, Euphoria
But no, never sadness.
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До свидания! Russia
by sp74bb inour sources in the russian front do confirm it.
service desk of russian branch is being transferred urgently to finland.. до свидания russia :).
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DJS
The Dark Lords have had since 2002, 14 years, to comply. They have clearly known how the Russian courts would interpret the laws for a decade.
Russian authorities have been patient. The Dark Lords arrogance and narcissism are the cause of this.
Let it come.
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Great quote!
by stuckinarut2 in"growth is painful.
change is painful.
but nothing is as painful as staying stuck somewhere you don't belong".
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Thanks Stuck,
Great quote.
Hop on the bus, Gus. Make a new plan, Stan. No need to be coy, Roy. Slip out the back, Jack.
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Challenge to Creationists
by cofty inin response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.
predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.
entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.
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Cofty,
I think they were mistaking you for me. I resemble that remark.
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Challenge to Creationists
by cofty inin response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.
predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.
entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.
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@shepherless: "Actually, the scientific method starts with an observation, not a postulation. Step 2 is coming up with as many hypotheses as possible. Step 3 is the process of elimination hypotheses by testing and further observation, etc.
I mention that, because if you start with one "postulation", then you are vulnerable to carrying out an exercise in confirmation bias, not the scientific method, because (human nature being what it is) you tend to just gather the evidence in support of your postulation, and you ignore the rest."
Thank you and well stated. When I conducted my first research project paper as part of a semester long class in my undergrad, our profs configured the class in the same manner as a PhD dissertation. It was critical to start with a blank slate to avoid bias. The one thing they stressed was to start your research with a question, such as "what are the effects of intelligence on religiosity?"
The possibilities include: no impact, undetermined, a negative impact, or a positive impact. If you start your research under the premise that intelligence has a negative influence on religiosity, for example, then the results may be biased. Once completed and presented for review, the question becomes a statement: "The Effects of Intelligence on Religiosity."
That's what slays me when Perry and others post 'research' from x-tian apologists who started their project with the premise that we live on a young earth or that god created everything. It isn't research; it is confirmation bias of the worst kind, and it will never be viewed seriously by the scientific community.
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Challenge to Creationists
by cofty inin response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.
predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.
entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.
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Being a root cause analysis type person, let’s get to the heart of the matter regarding this OP in general and the responses from Snowbird and a few others in particular. From Google Scholar – all recent studies from experts (with those PhD thing-eys).
1. Intelligence and religiosity: Within families and over time, Tel Aviv Univ: Yoav Ganzach, Chemi Gotlibovski, 2013
The results suggest that intelligence has a strong negative effect on religiosity. In addition, results also suggest that intelligence interacts with age in determining religiosity: the more intelligent the person, the stronger the negative effect of age on religiosity.
2. The relationship between intelligence and multiple domains of religious belief: Evidence from a large adult US sample, Gary J. Lewis, Stuart J. Ritchie, Timothy C. Bates, 2011
A model of the association of religiosity with intelligence openness using a large adult US sample and 6 measures of religious belief and behavior. Lower intelligence was significantly associated with higher levels of faith. Lower intelligence was most strongly associated with increased fundamentalism.
3.The intelligence–religiosity nexus: A representative study of white adolescent Americans, Helmuth Nyborg, 2009
The study examined whether IQ relates systematically to denomination and income, using representative data from the National Longitudinal Study of Youth (NLSY97). Atheists score 1.95 IQ points higher than Agnostics, 3.82 points higher than Liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than Dogmatic persuasions. It is suggested that IQ makes an individual likely to gravitate toward a denomination and level of achievement that best fit his or hers particular level of cognitive complexity. Ontogenetically speaking this means that contemporary denominations are rank ordered by largely hereditary variations in brain efficiency (i.e. IQ). In terms of evolution, modern Atheists are reacting rationally to cognitive and emotional challenges, whereas Liberals and, in particular Dogmatics, still rely on ancient, pre-rational, supernatural and wishful thinking.