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  EdenOne, Mrs. Eden & Son: DISASSOCIATED!

  by EdenOne in

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  great news!.

  we are free!.

  as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.

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  DJS

  The letter is perfect. Welcome to the rest if your life Ricardo.

  Pleased to meet you. i am David James
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  Islam is a religion of peace (2)

  by Coded Logic in

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  in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.

  it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.

  and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.

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  Russian extremist laws are looking smarter and smarter. Expect western versions soon.
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  EdenOne, Mrs. Eden & Son: DISASSOCIATED!

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  great news!.

  we are free!.

  as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.

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  DJS

  Most excellent!!-
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  Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read the news here.

  the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.

  bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.

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  DJS

  Well stated Sanchey
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  Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read the news here.

  the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.

  bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.

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  DJS

  I used the separatist groups as an example of believing something and acting on it. Geesh, Sanchy.

  Get control of your emotions and try to comment based on rational analysis of the situation. Two wrongs don't make a right? You have failed to provide one single shred of evidence where the Russian law is wrong or anything else they have done.

  Laws aren't effective? Complete and utter bull shit and nothing but a Libertarian mantra. There is a reason the Libertarian presidential candidate, who shines as a hometown hero in the back hills of KY or BFE, immediately crashes and burns when they enter the national spotlight.

  The DarkLords knew of this law since 2002. There is nothing wrong with this law. The Russian courts have been patient. The dubs have not been singled out, regardless of what you want to feel. The charges against them were explained by me early in this OP. They are real and verifiable. Your imaginary court that exists solely between your L ear and your R ear can adjudicate this as long as you wish, but the reality of this issue is that the Russian law is fair, the DarkLords repeatedly violated it, the courts were patient, and the recent charges are valid and verifiable.

  Those are the facts and they are indisputable. Your incessant whining about it is tiring. I would dearly love this world court (in your mind) to convene and let GB member Jackson, fresh from his ass kicking in Australia at the RC hearings, try to convince ANYONE that the Dark Tower deserves their empathy.

  There were likely thousands of dubs and ex-dubs who would have lined up to testify against Jackson and the Dark Tower in Aus. over the child abuse issue. How many do you think would line up to testify against the Dark Tower and in support of the Russian Supreme Court agreeing with gov. prosecutors that the DarkLords teachings and actions:

  Destroy young lives through coerced baptism at a very early age

  Destroy young lives through coerced avoidance of life saving medical assistance.

  Destroy families with their evil shunning policy

  There would be millions of ex-dubs and current dubs who would support Russia's decisions at this world court in your mind. Millions. I would be one of them.

  These are the facts and they are undisputed.

  Now stop your incessant whining. Or not. The more you type nonsense into the keyboard the more clear you make this issue to lurkers and the more ridiculous you become.
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  Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read the news here.

  the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.

  bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.

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  Sanchy,

  You continue to let your emotions lead and drive you into typing nonsense into your keyboard and onto this site.

  Several Muslim countries have made it illegal to proselytize x-tianity for decades. Penalties in the past included losing your life if you violated. The results of these laws have been very effective. How many dubs are in Saudi Arabia? Kuwait? Yemen?

  Are you incapable of rational thought and expression that is absent hysteria???

  The Russian laws are intended to address organized groups, as Anders and others, including me, have stated on several occasions. Individual dubs are free to be dubs - they just have to comply with the law or suffer the consequences on an individual basis as the legal system determines. The organization is a different matter. Why are you having so much trouble separating these?

  In the US you can believe anything you wish to believe politically; you can even believe that the government should be overthrown, for example, and you will likely be left alone. If you organize and try to spread those beliefs or engage in activities wherein the government has a right to view your group as a threat - and one not protected by either the law or the constitution - they can arrest you.

  Case in point. Several white separatist groups exist in the US. The government watches them closely, but they have for decades operated unscathed for the most part. Some even have enclaves in Idaho and other states where the birds of a feather have flocked together in like minded mistrust of the guv'ment. And they are for the most part left alone.

  When they begin spreading those teachings outside their enclave or start acting in an overtly threatening manner, they are raided, killed and their leaders carted off to jail. Their leaders know this and have for decades managed to operate below the radar for the most part. That's all the Dark Lords really have to do; their ego and narcissism won't allow them to do it, and the rank and file become unwilling pawns in their sick ego driven game.

  Now, copy and paste this to Russia and their extremist laws, which actually are much closer to laws in the US laws and practices than you think. The only difference is the US has built a ridiculous wall around religion, making people like you think you have rights that you don't actually have. Those walls are beginning to fall.

  Anders explained it well. Two wrongs don't make a right, but you have failed to adequately identify anything the Russian courts have done that is wrong. Hurting your feelings or violating your own sense of justice doesn't count.
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  Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read the news here.

  the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.

  bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.

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  DJS

  Why thank you for the compliment. I've been hoping cake by the ocean, I mean that someone would finally use something other than puppy monkey baby, I mean dick ass elder, in their response. I will consider insufferable bastard as a first attempt. YAY!

  I've suggested on several occasions that the cerebrally challenged glutea maxima would buy a thesaurus to assist them in rheir creative endeavors. I even gave them a hint where to find one - between the brontosaurus and the tyrannasaurus.
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  Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read the news here.

  the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.

  bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.

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  DJS

  Lloyd, I mean Sanchy, I thought you and Harold, I mean Barrold, were going to be a tag team.

  More specious BS. You have to be a follower of the Queen of Specious, Ayn Rand. You are telling me that the 'court of human rights' would view physical or sexual child abuse any differently than they would the coerced baptism of a 10 year old who faced a life of shunning if he/she screwed up (pun intended) 7 years later????? Or a minor child allowed to die because of being forced to deny a blood transfusion?????

  You really think this court of human rights would view the destruction of families caused by this hateful cult any differently than they would other human rights' issues?

  These are the specific issues identified by the Russian prosecutor and adjudicated by the Russian Supreme Court in the prosecution's favor and in align with a 14 year old law.

  Your trying to link these specific issues with human rights' issues is absurd. Religious freedom and freedom of conscience are contingent on the impact they have on both the individual and society. I really do hate repeating myself. Follow along, please.
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  Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read the news here.

  the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.

  bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.

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  DJS

  The hysterical, reactionary, irrational, mindset is deeply engrained with some on this site. They aren't worth arguing with. Including the Libertarians. Oh wait, I'm being redundant.

  And Barrold, I see you are back from 'reading' your latest child porn 'literature.'

  I believe Russias stance on gays is disgusting.

  I also believe it is short lived.

  Anything else chimps, I mean chaps?
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  Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read the news here.

  the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.

  bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.

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  Complete and utter bullshit: "If you want to influence ppl into certain ideologies, you do it with information. You teach, educate, and patiently the market of ideas will create winners and losers. It takes time, but its the only right way to do it."

  That is of course one of the things you do. But to think government is going to sit idly by and let classes of people experience discrimination or other groups of people cause harm to society due to their teachings and behaviors without creating controls on those societal contamination factors is beyond ridiculous and really doesn't deserve to be part of a rational, intelligent conversation.

  According to you (Libertarian I'm certain) the Civil Rights Laws, the Womens' Suffrage Laws, the Environmental Laws, the Wage and Hour Laws, et al, are a complete waste of time.

  The only thing exceeding your irrational and childish responses is your lack of self control in approaching the keyboard. Your 'contribution' is far more disrespectful than anything I've said.

  The US is starting to control hate speech. Our corporations and capitalist entities are already doing so. Just ask the governors of NC and Indiana. Hate speech laws are becoming the norm in more and more W governments. What the DarkLords preach is HATE, and it deserves to be controlled.

  History and the data show that these laws WORK. They are EFFECTIVE. I will be happy to post the data if that will help you.