You are correct. I'm speaking about the US. I know a lot about the homeless issue. I've volunteered at homeless shelters and spent a lot of time working on the issue.
My knowledge is more than anecdotal or experiential.
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by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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Poor people are sub-human?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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Xanthippe,
When you find something I've said in error please point it out. Otherwise my "mood" as you call it is exactly what people need to hear. Enabling them and feeling sorry for those who can help it is a waste of time for everyone.
One of the great tragedies about the homeless issue is that, because of changes in how they are treated and the lack of long term care available, those with mental problems often end up as homeless.
You are correct. To a point. The best experts suggest about one third of the chronically homeless are in their plight due to mentail illnesses.
However, a large % of those with mental and emotional illnesses is due to years if not decades of drug and alcohol abuse. They werent born with it and it isnt due to abuse. It is a choice.
Including some of my family, who drank and drugged themselves into mental oblivion.
That is the norm, not the exception, for a majority of the chronically homeless.
Couple this lack of self control with a desire to avoid work and not follow other societal rules and regulations and you have a defined picture of homelessness.
I spent many years, financial resources and emotional investment on 2 of my brothers to try and help them quit drugs and alcohol, including studying the bible with them when I was a dub and taking them to and participating with them in various 12 step type programs, some of which were paid by the gov.
As is typical they always went back to it and the lifestyle. That is typical of the chronically homeless. So when you feel pity for them remember that nearly every one of them has had friends, family and Uncle Sam bleed tears and cash to fix them.
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Poor people are sub-human?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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GT,
No need to qualify. You are obviously correct. Technical degrees, certifications, etc. are a viable alternative.
My primary point is that a major paradigm shift in the US and other industrialized economies is occurring. It is redefining what being the fittest means. Those adapting will thrive; those who do not won't.
But you can't fix stupid, or Dog (but I'm being redundant), which is why, as that guy jesus is noted to have said, we will always have poor people..
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Poor people are sub-human?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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The Rebel,
Well stated and double dittos.
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Have you ever known a holocaust denier? How did you feel about them?
by Esse quam videri ini sometimes did work for a lovely old couple who at times needed repairs done around their home.
my wife and myself spent time with them, having tea and crackers from time to time.
one day the husband and myself got into a conversation and he clearly showed himself to be a holocaust denier.
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Dog,
You shame the use of the word research. The people on this planet closest to and most knowledgeable about the holocaust have laws making it criminal to teach denial, including Germany, which made it law 31 years ago.
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Poor people are sub-human?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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DJS
Besides the fact that Dog is a manipulative, holocaust denying, conspiracy theorist troll, this OP is simply more of the same. Poor little Dog. Hims can't help hims-self. Hims seems to have time, energy and resources to surf conspiracy theorist web sites and come on this site and try to spread his infection - while playing the victim and expressing his rage against the machine - but not the resources to get his lazy ass back in college or technical school and do something about his plight.
More for your consideration:
Personal accountability and poverty (if I have to explain the linkages between these news articles, poverty and personal accountability then I really can't help you):
News item no. 1: Research Shows Link Between Obesity and 8 Additional Cancers, Aug. 25, 2016
News item no. 2: Infants Dependent on Opioids Rising Faster in Rural Areas, Study Finds, Dec. 12, 2016
Misguided compassion is the very last thing any of these fools need.
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Poor people are sub-human?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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The Rebel,
Excellent point. If you have followed my musings you will know that I am 100% opposed to letting people breed and sending them a check, which will let them to continue to breed.
That still does not remove personal accountability from the equation; it simply means the governments are a part of the misplaced compassion. It results in the de-evolution of our species for no other reason than to keep the GDP growing on the one hand and to be fair to governments - to be compassionate to the have-nots.
But all governments are doing, as you rightly stated, is contributing to the have-nots. Whatever in life you subsidize, enable, molly coddle, support, excuse or justify, you will get more of.
Some of you think I'm a bleeding heart liberal; if you knew the depths of my feelings towards enabling the willfully stupid, the lazy and the irresponsible you would think I was somewhere right of the edge of the planet. Once a sufficient amount of resources are thrown at the lazy, the stupid and the irresponsible and it has had no effect, I suggest feeding them to the sharks. Or letting them die under a bridge.
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Poor people are sub-human?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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DJS
I've posted data the past few months that shows the majority of jobs during the post recession era, circa 2008, have been to college grads, and especially the higher paying jobs. One of the contributing factors to poverty in the US is the sub-standard wages paid by corporations. The middle class has shrunk and lots of hard working people teeter on the brink of poverty, especially when a crisis emerges such as divorce, unemployment, and before Obamacare - health problems.
The deck, to some degree, IS stacked against certain groups of people. Having said that I will revert back to my original argument: If you don't make a lot of $, and if your job situation is such that you don't really have a pot of gold at the end of your employment rainbow, then the responsible thing to do would be to obtain more education and avoid birthing babies in the process.
If you don't control yourself someone else will. Whether by machiavellian intent or just because that's the way capitalistic markets work some times, our economy is not being kind to the middle class. One can either whine, piss, bitch and moan about it - and vote for and hope the Donald will fix it for you (yeah, right) or one can take ownership of the situation and do something about it. The coal miners in W VA and the blue collar manufacturing workers have, to a disproportionate degree, refused to do anything about it other than whine.
We want our high paying blue collar and coal jobs and we want them now.
Sorry, fools, but that's not how an economy works. Google Adam Smith.
Having said that, corporations that do not pay living wages are subsidized by the US gov., through earned income credits, low or no taxes on low wage earners, subsidized housing and food, etc. It is a broken system for certain, but flailing around as though you have no choices and everyone is out to get you will ensure that you remain exactly where your poor fat ass is right now.
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Poor people are sub-human?
by Alostpuppydog inhas anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
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DJS
In the US, poverty rates by one group, families headed by a single mother, contributes greatly to the issue. The cost of child care coupled with lost educational opportunities resulting in lower wage jobs make up the root cause.
However, among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent. 45.8 percent of young black children (under age 6) live in poverty, compared to 14.5 percent of white children.
Approximately 70% of black children are born into families without a father.
So once again, let's not waste a lot of unnecessary emotions about one contributing factor to poverty that could almost be eradicated within a generation.
By responsible, accountable behavior. Don't get knocked up when you are a teen or young woman without an education, a good job and a stable environment in which to raise children and certainly don't get knocked up by a loser that has no job, no stability, no ambition coupled with a substance abuse problem.
It's that fucking simple. Once again, personal accountability is the strongest force in the universe.
Do you really want me to continue?
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"Religion of Peace" Busy In Europe Today...
by freemindfade inturkey and now berlin, the abrahamic mind virus strikes again... actually there is no confirmation the truck attack was islam, but... it's probably islam.
at least in europe, they call terrorist attacks just that, unlike here in america, we have become so crazy we have clear terrorist attacks, some over a year old now that they still question the motive ala san bernadino.. religion .
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Musings from an analyst (me):
CNN was absolutely correct to report it in the manner in which it was reported. To label it a terrorist attack, or even a presumed terrorist attack, before the local experts called it as such would have been irresponsible.
This morning's CNN headlines calls it a "presumed terrorist attack," because that is what the local experts are calling it. Again. CNN is absolutely correct in this.
Having said that, I will be glad to again have a prez who will call it what it is (but please The Donald, at least wait until the experts/investigation point it out and quit acting like a 4 year old), which is Islamic terrorism. Obama has many good qualities; refusing to call Islamic terrorism, Islamic terrorism is not one of them. It nauseates me to think that Obama is actually accomplishing anything, other than enabling the Islamists, by refusing to call it exactly what it is.