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  JW's and JFK - It Makes A Certain Sense. Try it out...

  by ZeroKool29 in

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  i think it's time for my kind of sunday talk.

  i began thinking about this tonight, i rented jfk.

  now, my girlfriend just finished reading this book written by a forensic pathologist.

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  This is a quote from an article Why Bad Beliefs Don't Die

  Skeptical thinkers must realize that because of the survival value of beliefs, disconfirming evidence will rarely, if ever, be sufficient to change beliefs, even in "otherwise intelligent" people. In order to effectively change beliefs skeptics must attend to their survival value, not just their data-accuracy value.

  http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-11/beliefs.html

  It is something I have to review anytime I am investigating a new thought about religion etc. My beliefs are so ingrained that I have to remind myself that I can change them if I need to. It's as tho I have to give myself permission to change belief systems. Coming away from the WT has been the most confusing change of all.

  There are people that have deeply ingrained beliefs about JFK. Getting them to change that is just as hard.

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  We need a little information for OUR files !

  by Rabbit in

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  i was baptized in '73.

  i also reg.

  pioneered for 3 years.

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  Seriously, I do not believe for a second that the society or the local congregation destroyed all records of mine even tho I requested that in a letter. I believe that you exist on a data base at headquarters as well as your last congregation.

  There has to be a way to track you. If say you appeared at a congregation in BFE years after you left the home town cong. Suppose you were trying to pull a fast one and get baptized all over again and start fresh even tho you were DF'd in the home town. The elders in BFE may suspect something. They must be able to call HQ and confirm your newbie status.

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  We need a little information for OUR files !

  by Rabbit in

  1. watchtower
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  i was baptized in '73.

  i also reg.

  pioneered for 3 years.

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  elder bodies are not uniform.

  I'm sorry but this made me imagine something like Model # SK34-10J from the Acme Robotic Factory. Are elder bodies from some defective molds? Why are they not uniform? Sorry I am having severe mental hiccups.

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  michael jackson, judge releases search warrent

  by Narek in

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  this link is to a heavilly edited copy of the search warrent from neverland.. there are many omissions but what is included raises some questions, the keys in the safe for one!.

  http://http://www.pf0604.co.uk/m_jackson/search_warrent_.html

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  Golly gee, sounds like Michael might be hiding something

  You think? But he says he just Loooooooooooves children.

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  244 worshippers die at Saudi pilgrimage..

  by Special K in

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  what i open up in the paper this morning.. 244 worshippers die at saudi pilgrimage.

  "a stampede during a stoning ritual at the annual muslim pilgrimage killed 244 worshippers.. a stampede, during one of the peak events.. hajj minister told reporters.

  "all precautions were taken to prevent such an incident, but this is god's will.

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  ((((((Aunthill))))))

  The more we examine the effects of the damage wrought on us the angrier I get at the SOBs who started the whole mess. The damage is so extensive, it reaches every nook and cranny in the psyche. Just when I think I have dealt with all the damage another reminder of something else is discussed on this forum. We so need each other. I am so very thankful this forum exists.

  My parents are both in their 80s but I wished for many years that they would at least die before the big A. I am just appalled at how the WT took away my natural affection and I did not even notice. There is no way that I could ever tell my parents how I used to feel. It would hurt them so much.

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  Who is running the Watchtower Society?

  by richard in

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  since the watchtower society has been reorganized and split up in all these (sub)corporations, i wonder where the real power is located.

  my guess would be the wtbts of pennsylvania, inc. other ideas?

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  The WT is like a train going over the mountains. It reached its peak in the 80s and now it is going down hill. But the engineer is too old to care so he has drifted off to sleep. Now it is being carried along on momentum from the hay-day of the 80s.

  No one is running the WT. It is either going to plunge off a cliff or coast to a stop at the bottom. There isn't anyone with the charisma to get it up the next hill.

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  generation change

  by littlemike in

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  2. friends

  hello this is my first topic on this forum.. i left the jws 18 months ago and am still recovering.

  it was after reading crisis of conscience that i was brave enough to leave although i had serious doubts before i was always scared in case it was right!!

  and i was wrong.. however when they changed the generation in 1995 that caused me great trauma as i had accepted that as absolute fact and based my life on it.

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  The generation change went right over my head. It was new light and life went on as usual. I didn't wake up until I found out about the UN.

  It took outright hypocricy to make me walk.

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  Okay Gang - Time for Football Worship !

  by Amazing in

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  that's right .

  ps: i actually predict a tight score: patriots 21, panthers 13. it is 4:49 pm, sun.

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  Just a little humor to go with the Superbowl!
  
  A guy took his blonde girl friend to her first football game. They had great seats right behind their team's bench... After the game, he asked her how she liked the experience. Oh, I really liked it," she replied, "especially the tight pants and all the big muscles, but I just couldn't understand why they were killing each other over 25 cents." Dumbfounded, her date asked, "What do you mean?" "Well, I saw them flip a coin and one team got it and then for the rest of the game, all they kept screaming was: "Get the quarterback! Get the quarterback!" Hel-l-l-lo! It's only 25 cents! I hate to think what they'd do if it was a whole DOLLAR!!!!
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  Nigeriam Scammers Busted

  by Country Girl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  police arrest 52 in email scam raids

  thu jan 29,11:16 am et

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  Well that will put a stop to half my e-mails. Now if somebody can stop the offers to make my u-know-what bigger I would be sooooooooooooo happy!

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  The Document Some of Us Signed After Baptism

  by cruzanheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a thread a while back by someone who asked if anyone signed a document after they got baptised, and it jogged my memory.

  so i leafed through some of the old books and found the old yellow "your word is a lamp to my foot.

  " on the last is "a record of christian baptism" (see below).

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  What a small world! I was baptized in July, 1965. I lived in Huntington Beach then moved to Garden Grove. I used to take my kids to the street to the west of Disneyland in the summer so they could watch the fireworks.

  I still have the Lamp book but I did not own it until after I was baptized.

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