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  There's just something about theists that say they were once atheists....

  by logansrun in

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  you know the type, the ones that say, "oh yes.

  i tried to not believe in god..." or "when i left the jws i became an atheist, but since i found jesus..." simply put, i don't believe them.

  i don't think they ever really stopped believing in god.

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  Crowboy, People that supposedly convert from atheism to Christianity usually are not very proficient in sound logical argument, nor are they familiar with modern Biblical criticism. I think it's easy for the untrained mind who has never had any contact with Christianity to be taken in by some slick arguments. But, if they research these "logical conclusions" further they would find that the Christian "logic" is seriously flawed. B
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  607 BC

  by minstrel in

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  could someone explain why this date is incorrect, i had always been told that this date for babylon's conquest of israel was widely accepted by historians etc.

  (hence it was also critical in calculating 1914.

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  Well, I believe Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BC. I also believe Columbus discovered America in 1472 ;) hehe Bradley
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  There's just something about theists that say they were once atheists....

  by logansrun in

  1. jw
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  you know the type, the ones that say, "oh yes.

  i tried to not believe in god..." or "when i left the jws i became an atheist, but since i found jesus..." simply put, i don't believe them.

  i don't think they ever really stopped believing in god.

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  People who can't distinguish feeling from thinking, suck. 6/9 -- That sums it up more succinctly than I've ever seen before! I like that! Bradley
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  There's just something about theists that say they were once atheists....

  by logansrun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you know the type, the ones that say, "oh yes.

  i tried to not believe in god..." or "when i left the jws i became an atheist, but since i found jesus..." simply put, i don't believe them.

  i don't think they ever really stopped believing in god.

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  logansrun

  You know the type, the ones that say, "Oh yes. I tried to not believe in God..." or "When I left the JWs I became an atheist, but since I found Jesus..." Simply put, I don't believe them.

  I don't think they EVER really stopped believing in God. I think they went through a phase, a period of doubt that lasted for a moment. There probably was not a lot of research or thinking put into their temporary non-belief in God, just a feeling. Not liking this feeling they rededicate themselves to Jesus or get swayed into some Evangelical movement. Then they can say, "You know, I was an atheist once..." and rattle off how they have since "seen the light." This is supposed to be an example for atheists or agnostics of someone who was "one of them" who is now a Christian. I find personal examples like this wholly unconvincing. Simply put, they were "atheists" for all the wrong reason.

  So, that's what I think is happening with people like this. Their "atheism" was not a clearly thought out, reasoned quest to find out if belief in God or the Bible is rational. No, their "atheism" was a passing fancy not backed up by research or honest introspection. Just a thought I've had.

  Bradley
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  What turns you OFF?

  by logansrun in

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  a couple days ago minimus asked the question (anyone notice he's always asking questions?

  me: snobbery, ignorance, flourescent lighting and hands that are shedding innocent blood.

  bradley

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  Jessica Rabbit,

  You have just described my brother-in-law, a militant "super JW elder." Yeah, I hate that too.

  Bradley
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  What turns you OFF?

  by logansrun in

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  a couple days ago minimus asked the question (anyone notice he's always asking questions?

  me: snobbery, ignorance, flourescent lighting and hands that are shedding innocent blood.

  bradley

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  A couple days ago Minimus asked the question (anyone notice he's always asking questions? ) "What turns you on?" Well, how about the flip-side....what turns you OFF?

  Me: snobbery, ignorance, flourescent lighting and hands that are shedding innocent blood.

  You: ?

  Bradley
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  Is it Scientificly possible for God to hear my prayers??????

  by JC in

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  how do we explain the trillion sets of instruction that make up our dna???????.

  how the dickens did all that information get there??.

  its things like this that goes around in my head very often!!........

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  Scientists have found that an identical twin can have an immediate reaction to the other twin emotions, despite the fact that they could be many thousands of miles apart......

  Now, what they have noticed is an instant and simultaneous change in Photon’s around each twin when this happens.... so the Photon’s are a carrier of instant communications, and as they ignore time, distance and matter they can be found everywhere, right throughout the Universe...... so, in effect, this scientifically proves my thoughts or anyone's thoughts or prayers could be heard in Heaven wherever it may be.

  The part about the twins is a pretty bold claim. Would you care to cite some documentation for this?

  Bradley
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  Do you believe in God now?

  by Ron1968 in

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  this question has probably been asked before, but since i am a newbie, i wouldn't know.. anyway, i would like to ask if you believe in god or a higher power since becoming an ex-jw?.

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  Oxnard,

  Logansrun, why are you such an ass? So anyone who disagrees with you is "stupid" and therefore a target for your ridicule?

  No, not everyone that disagrees with me is "stupid." You're overgeneralizing my comments. You said (basically) that NOTHING could change your mind about there existing a God, in fact, the Biblical God at that. It doesn't take a genius to conclude that you have then turned your mind off to the idea that you are wrong, hence my comment. I don't "believe" in the Biblical God, but I cannot say that it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to have evidence of His existence. You, on the other hand, are SO SURE that you have closed off your thinking capabilities on the matter.

  A lot of people believe in God. And they probably wouldn't change their mind no matter what. Guess you have a lot of people to ridicule. Hop to it pal.

  Wrong. I know some people that believe in God but recognize that there is no proof and they could be wrong. In fact, I really hope that some sort of Deity exists, but I'm not counting on it. You've discounted every single possibility except the one you now hold. I find that sad. Bradley
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  Do you believe in God now?

  by Ron1968 in

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  this question has probably been asked before, but since i am a newbie, i wouldn't know.. anyway, i would like to ask if you believe in god or a higher power since becoming an ex-jw?.

  ron

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  Oxnard,

  Sounds like you're not going to let anything change your views.

  No, I'm not.

  Ah. I see you checked your brain at the door on your way in. Well, welcome anyways. Bradley
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  Has your life gotten better as an athiest/agnostic?

  by StinkyPantz in

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  this quote got me thinking:if you pray sincerely and admit you are a sinner and accept christ as your savior you can have the holy spirit come into your life.. .

  i used to do this everyday.

  when i was being abused, i used to pray incessantly for god to help me.

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  Oxford,

  logansrun - Sorry, but I think that is a ridiculous question.

  I said it was hypothetical. What's so ridiculous about that?

  You know I believe in both God and the afterlife, and you are making me choose just to prove my beliefs are silly.

  And you wouldn't dare talk about it because you feel they might be?

  If you all want to think I'm nuts because I still believe in God, fine.

  I don't think you're "nuts" for believeing in God.

  But I am getting the impression that some of you left the JWs with a bitter taste in your mouth. You can't let a group of people who take everything from some magazine, published by people who are self proclaimed faithful and discreet slaves, sway how you believe.

  Hmmm. Let's replace your last sentence with a few words and see how different it is from what you just said:

  You can't let a group of people who take everything from the Bible, published by people who are self proclaimed prophets, sway how you believe.

  Yeah, that's it