Pope,
I suspect that you need a lobotomy. Hope that helps.
KY
years ago, at an elder's school, the subject of secret sins and masturbation was discussed.
the instructer mentioned how "secret sins" could affect the spirit of the congregation.
when the subject of masturbation was"handled", a brother decided to put his hand up to "confess".this was obviously not meant to be a question and answer discussion, but the co called on the elder.
Pope,
I suspect that you need a lobotomy. Hope that helps.
KY
abandon family to serve god ?
a contradiction not often discussed relates to the biblical teaching to abandon family in order to serve god.
matthew claims that jesus told his disciples to "honor your father and mother.
The tongue of a lying viper - you started by talking about Friends and Family. Now it is merely FAMILY, and close family at that! That's because your filimentary argument has been tied up in knots. As a practicing Jew Jesus had to respect the Law which demanded honor for family - it was a given. Otherwise Jesus would have had that charge thrown at him by the rabid Jews of the 1st century. It is rather amazing that this revelation of Jesus' hard loathing of family has had to wait for Mr Alward to appear on the world secene - rather like a a bad tempered, screaming, red faced ant facing an onrushing locomotive and yelling STOP!
Why is it Mr Alward that it's taken you this long to stumble upon your tremendous recidivist insight. Are you really such a slow learner or are you one of the slithering mass of apostate doggery here to foment trouble and mislead ? I suspect the former. LOL.
Know_You
Edited by - Know_You on 14 October 2002 22:19:18
years ago, at an elder's school, the subject of secret sins and masturbation was discussed.
the instructer mentioned how "secret sins" could affect the spirit of the congregation.
when the subject of masturbation was"handled", a brother decided to put his hand up to "confess".this was obviously not meant to be a question and answer discussion, but the co called on the elder.
Sadly the sin of Onan affects many in Jehovah's service. However, this elder showed a true spirit of sincere regret - as have countless Youths and even older ones deprived of a partner through death. That is in stark contrast to Catholic Priests who are well known to be serial unrepentant masturbators, even going so far as to use their left hands - though right-handed - on occasion. Also, many apostates are secret homosexuals and some have even gone so far as to engage in aural sex. A truly depraved practice and one that will soon be punished when God wreaks down havoc on this depraved society of fornicators, adulterers and beefeaters. Does not the Bible warn that Gehenna awaits the dogs who practice their vile sins, in private or in publics, outside the city walls?
Know_You
abandon family to serve god ?
a contradiction not often discussed relates to the biblical teaching to abandon family in order to serve god.
matthew claims that jesus told his disciples to "honor your father and mother.
YOU have been provided numerous examples: the resurrection of his friend Lazarus, his injunction to offer a child bread and not a viper, to rescue a child from the well on the Sabbath, his provision of wine for his friends at the wedding feast, his feeding the 5000, his requirement that we love our neighbors as ourself, his kindness to Peter who chopped the Roma's ear off, as well as to the Roman himself who he cured, his cure sof many people, th erefernce to John whom he "loved the most/" What do you want? Do you seriously think that a minor denizen of the web such as yourself has any credence even with secular theologians. Man, even they would eat you for their lunch without breaking a sweat.
Basically, you are an arrogant fool if you demand that we provide you chapter and verse for well known stories - stories that are the very lifeblood of Christianity. Look 'em up for yourself - that is if you are capable of doing so without so besmirching your Bible with the vitriolic froth spouting from your mouth that the ink becomes illegible.
Know_You
abandon family to serve god ?
a contradiction not often discussed relates to the biblical teaching to abandon family in order to serve god.
matthew claims that jesus told his disciples to "honor your father and mother.
: I'm not aware off-hand which verses in the Bible explicity have Jesus expressing the view that one should love one's family and friends.
Which of you, if your son asked for an egg would hand him a viper? Love your neighbor as yourself. Etc.
Are you insane? Get a grip man.
KY
abandon family to serve god ?
a contradiction not often discussed relates to the biblical teaching to abandon family in order to serve god.
matthew claims that jesus told his disciples to "honor your father and mother.
: I also don't recall any instances where Jesus demonstrated an explicit act of kindness toward a friend or family member.
So we have yet another vile apostate roosting in our midst, a son of Satan intent on deceiving with apostate words and false charges. It is no wonder, for did not Peter writ eof those who like unseen rocks would seek to shipwreck our faith.
A man who pretends to be a skeptical voice on Christianity bears no credibility when he demonstrates such shameful ignorance of the facts. Did Jesus not turn water into wine, did he not feed the 5000, did he not ask who would give his son a viper if that child asked for food? Are these the teachings of a man who would do not good for family and friends? Did he not cure the soldier's ear which Peter had removed? Did he not show mercy to the evildoer on the stake? Did he not preach to love others as one would love onself. Did he not ask who would not rescue his son fallen in a well on the Sabbath.
Know_You
abandon family to serve god ?
a contradiction not often discussed relates to the biblical teaching to abandon family in order to serve god.
matthew claims that jesus told his disciples to "honor your father and mother.
Your words serve only to reinforce the hardhitting, but dead on the money, counsel that Jehovah's Witnesses have received for decades through the spirit-directed faithful and discreet slave. That a worldling such as yourself can see the wisdom in protecting the congregation, while the vast mass of misled apostate participants here cannot, shows just how blinded they have become.
What a loving example Jesus set forth in putting Jehovah and the organization before soon to be ended fleshly relationships - that is unless the wrongder repents - which is the whole objective of this merciful arrangement.
Know_You
i am writing this from the serene spiritual environment of brother and sister - well let me just call them john and eunice - 's home in sunny santa xxxxx.
mrs know_you and i have had several fine experiences even this early into our trip.
thus, it is with hesitation that i revisit this venomous vat of vapid invective, this cesspool of apostate pablum, but needs must.
Gopher,
Know that in the last days men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money and drunk with the prurient pleasures of this evil world. Your lack of success in the field was surely a harbinger of your love having cooled off ( if you even had any at first - most apostates are shams from the get go). Rather than humbly seeking assistance from an elder, or if you are female, an older mature sister, you rebelliously pursued a hard headed course that has left your faith shipwrecked and adrift. Like a washed up magpie you pick at whatever catches your spiritually attention-deficient interest, while all the time deluding yourself into thinking that time is not running out on you. Let there be no mistake, as a thief it will come - in fact, more like an armed robber. LOL.
Hope that helps,
Know_You
i am writing this from the serene spiritual environment of brother and sister - well let me just call them john and eunice - 's home in sunny santa xxxxx.
mrs know_you and i have had several fine experiences even this early into our trip.
thus, it is with hesitation that i revisit this venomous vat of vapid invective, this cesspool of apostate pablum, but needs must.
I am writing this from the serene spiritual environment of Brother and Sister - well let me just call them John and Eunice - 's home in sunny Santa xxxxx. Mrs Know_You and I have had several fine experiences even this early into our trip. Thus, it is with hesitation that I revisit this venomous vat of vapid invective, this cesspool of apostate pablum, but needs must. It is necessary to wield the sharp sword of Truth to expose the distortions and foggy logic of those who have left the Ark of Salvation and attempt to lure others into their den of irreverent inequity. To separate the bone from its marrow, as it were. These fine upbuildinng experiences direct from the field, soon to be a threshing ground of destruction, should remind any lurkers that this board is a snakepit of distortion and calumny.
Our first stop was a campground in Northern California. On our way into the State Park the Ranger on duty noticed the Watchtower and Awake! magazine covers discretely taped onto our back and side windows. She remarked at how she longed to see this wicked world destroyed as depicted on the cover of one of the Watchtowers. Her husband walked out on on her in favor of a sentinel of Satan, a priest from Babylon the Great. We were able to give a fine witness, showing her the marvelous hope for the future - the utter annihiliation of the vast majority of humanity in the coming great storm of God's righteous wrath! She remarked how the brothers always left their campsites clean and orderly in contrast to the morass of filth commonly left by worldy people - and no doubt apostates, as we were quick to explain to her.
Saturday morning we walked around the campsite and were able to engage several people in friendly conversation. People seemed more relaxed out in the woods, and we were suprised at how many people approached us with questions. It was as if Jehovah's spirit was guiding them to us - they were eagerly curious, something we don't often find in the door-to-door work. We placed a number of Watchtower magazines and, surronuded by Jehovah's breathtaking creation, were able on more than one occasion to provide a compelling account of the Grand Story of Creation. One gentlemen we met was a well know Professor of Phrenology at Berkeley and we were able to give him a fine witness. Unfortunately, we had to cut our tour of the campground short when a small dog caught hold of my suit leg pant and wouldn't let go, tearing the material badly and causing me to get smudges on my shirt and tie. That night sitting around the campfire singing Kingdom Melodies we had a number of visitors, curious as to why Mrs Know-You had a white towel on her head - this led to a fine conversation with a small group of campers on the importance of women being in subjection to men - several of the men were heartily appreciative of this fine spirit directed counsel from the Slave and commented on how the womenfolk thrived when left at the campsite to cook the food and do the dishes while the men were off in their trucks touring the fireroads. Very few of them realized that a women's head is, on average, smaller than a man's, and as the Slave has pointed out, this results in a generally lower level of intelligence and ability to lead. But how thankful we can be for Jehovah's fine provision of meek and subduable womenfolk - what a blessing they are.
How different from the aggressive vixen like females of this old system, with their excessive make-up and trouser suits, they refusal to let their husbands take the lead as they pursue their fleshy desires, their provocative clothing and their rebellious insistence, like the sons of Korah, on usurping divine arrangements. Those of us in Jehovah's house can take refuge in the marvellous arrangements and spiritual food so loving dispensed by the Slave in these last days of the last days of this doomed old system.
Know_You
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if noah's flood was global, how come lots of people r pagan?.
doesn't it sound reasonable that they could have a relapse into paganism so soon after the flood?
badboy,
Like all apostates you know nothing of the human heart condtion. This world lies paralyzed in Satan' grasp - the very vice of the Devil is gripping it, and all within it. The human heart, as this board shows richly, is like a lodestone that always points to "bad." Why do you think Jesus had to come if the Flood was sufficient? The prime purpose of the flood was to rid the earth of the Nephilim - the progeny of an unholy onion between an angel and a daughter of men - and to serve as a warning for our day.
The Ark well pictured the Ark of Salvation which is faithfully steered by the composite Noah - our dear body of "faithful ones" - the Slave. Shortly, this world will be erased from the scene and paermanent change to human hearts will be effected - either through a well deserved ripping out of them, while their owners are still going concerns, when the Big A hits, or, through the opening of new scrolls - that is for those who will be around to read them. Hope that helps.
Know_You
Edited by - Know_You on 11 October 2002 13:31:49