Posts by Aztec

Make plans for apostabowl peeps. It should be interesting if nothing else. I might be stuck cooking and, let's hope not, cause, Badger is the better cook!

I'll make Badger respond tomorrow ( ) but he's resting right now and I'm the one with insomnia.

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Which cartoon character are you?

by HappyDad in

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have some fun with this site........ http://naucon.net/misc/tests/cartoon_char.htm.

i never thought this is who i would be, but life comes at you quick.

lol .

You are fun, friendly, and popular. You are a real crowd pleaser.
You have probably been out on the town your share of times, yet you
come home with the values that your mother taught you. Marriage and
children are important to you, but only after you have fun. Don't
let the people you please influence you to stray.

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Have you ever been to an Apostofest or met JWD posters?

by JH in

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are you planning to go to an apostofest in the near future?

i've met posters on 3 occasions, twice in montreal, and once in toronto.. how about you?.

Aztec

I have been to several others and nothing like that happened, so I think it was an isolated event.

Are you sure it wasn't an insulated isodent?

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Your Mothers first date, and first Kiss ... How well do you know mom?

by xjwms in

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how well do you know your mom?

in view of may 8th, i thought it would be fun to think about.. i have heard these storys over and over, how about you, ..... and anything interesting?

Aztec

From my mother's account on the subject her first date and first kiss both occured on her senior prom. I'm not sure I believe it but that's her story and she's sticking to it.

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Right/Left Brain test (quick and fun)

by Double Edge in

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click on the link to see how you can handle a quick test to measure your concentration ..... http://www.njagyouth.org/colortest.swf

Aztec

100% on the first try. WTH does that mean?

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Friends without faces

by Gadget in

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friends without faces by joe k .

we sit and we type, and we stare at our screens .

we all have to wonder, what this possibly means.

Aztec

We form special friendships,but-why we don't know
But some of these friendships, will flourish and grow

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JW's United Defend W.T.'s Relationship With U.N.

by Kenneson in

we have all read info here and elsewhere exposing the w.t.

society's involvement with the u.n. i have found a site which is trying to minimize the damage that has been wrought.

i hope many of you will read it and offer your viewpoints or critiques.. http://www.wtdefended.co.sr/ .

Aztec

" With regard to former Witnesses and religious opponents of Jehovah's Witnesses who are publicizing these allegations, we have to ask them: "What's it to you anyway?". After all, if they aren't Jehovah's Witnesses, presumably they don't believe that the UN is the 'disgusting thing' referred to in Matthew 24, or the 'image of the beast' of Revelation 13, but rather that it is a praiseworthy effort to bring peace to mankind. Well, if that is their position, then why are they finding fault with Jehovah's Witnesses for supporting it, as they claim? They should be congratulating the Witnesses for offering support to such a laudable objective! But of course they don't. There can be only one reason: mischief making. These opponents of Jehovah's Witnesses are possessed with such an unreasoning hatred for the organization which many of them formerly belonged to that they look for any pretext to cause trouble for them. "

First of all, is the author now saying that it was the Watchtower's objective to support the UN in their goals? On another page this person parrots the official response.

Also, why is finding logical inconsistancies of an organizations policies mischief making?

" Even if some of them are still active Jehovah's Witnesses, they are still guilty of deception. They know full well that by publicly attacking the Watch Tower Society, they forfeit their right to belong to the congregation. "

That cracked me up! Of course you can't criticize the Watchtower and still be an active member in good standing!

"The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are honest men, sincerely devoted to teaching the truth of the Bible throughout the world. They would never purposely do anything that would compromise Christian principles or displease Jehovah. Those who really love Jehovah and his word will co-operate with them in attaining this objective. If Jehovah trusts them, then so should we."

That's rather specious reasoning. *shrugs*

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JW's United Defend W.T.'s Relationship With U.N.

by Kenneson in

we have all read info here and elsewhere exposing the w.t.

society's involvement with the u.n. i have found a site which is trying to minimize the damage that has been wrought.

i hope many of you will read it and offer your viewpoints or critiques.. http://www.wtdefended.co.sr/ .

Aztec

Kenneson, lots to read there. Interesting site.

I've spotted a few logical fallacies (inconsistancies?) already. Not that that is shocking coming from active dub or jw apologist.

Some object to criticisms of the UN published in Watch Tower Publications, usually in commentaries of the prophetic books of Daniel and Revelation, as well as Christ's end-time prophecy recorded in Matthew 24, etc. They find it offensive that the UN is identified with the 'disgusting thing that causes desolation,' the 'scarlet-colored wild beast', and 'the image of the beast'.

Others protest that Jehovah's Witnesses have been excessively friendly towards the United Nations, publishing what they consider to be UN propaganda. They claim that there has been an unusually large number of references to the United Nations and its activities, particularly in Awake! magazine.

No. The same people protest about the hypocrisy of the Watchtower claiming one thing and then doing an about face when they joined the UN as an NGO.

Of course, the majority of those who leave Jehovah's Witnesses - or who are disfellowshipped - simply get on with their lives. Not a few of them later return to the Organization later on, and even many of those who do not continue to defend Jehovah's Witnesses as good people, or even as having the truth. There is, however, another breed of ex-member, one who seeks to do as much damage as possible to the Jehovah's Witness cause

Followed by:

Bryan Wilson, Emeritus Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford University, England, has made the following comment about the reliability of the testimony of former members of religious groups who go on to speak out against their former associates:

Neither the objective sociological researcher nor the court of law can readily regard a defector as a credible or reliable source of evidence. He must always be seen as one whose personal history predisposes him to bias against both his previous religious commitment and his former associates.

So which group is more reliable? The ones who have left but still support the Watchtower or those who have left and find it's teachings and practices reprehensible?

I'm going to go read the rest...

Sorry about all the highlighting. This site is f**ked up sometimes. Sheesh!

Oops! Some of it didn't post the first time.