As Italians would say :all smoke but no roast". ----
I don't think Data-Dog will be satisfied
just answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
As Italians would say :all smoke but no roast". ----
I don't think Data-Dog will be satisfied
reform of goverinig body.
transparency of their regular meetings and reports to the brotherhood.
creating a committee for biblical reforms.
La Francia, you've aroused my interest--but I am not sure I am understanding what you mean. Is something happening at the Rome bethel? Please check your Pm I would like to understand further.
hello sftw,.
when you have a moment.
why not have a respectful conversation about the societies blood doctrine, the evolution of that doctrine, and the implications of that doctrine.
Really interested in the explanation. I'll have to bump too
why are people so weak in the organization and unable to keep their partner of twenty years free from the accusations of gossip mongering brothers and sister?.
this thread is dedicated to all the couples who suffered great damage when their immature spouse brought in the elders for every wrongdoing their loved ones might have done.
the organization twists the reality of the role the elders play in a congregation.
Dear AuntConnie, I'll be sleeping a little better tonight with the anticipation of reading your post with my coffee in the morning. Kiss Kiss and good night
the pioneer service school will now be only one week, monday thru saturday.. it will consist of 40 hours of instruction and illustrations/presentations.. the reasong given is that this will make it more accessible to the pioneers for due to work schedules and for congregations having to sponsor and support the school.. it will make it easier on everyone and those who haven't attended in the last five years may be able to attend this school with the new curriculum.. .
what do you feel would be included in the new curriculum.
probably more worship of the governing body and they don't need two whole weeks to get this across.. .
I went to one of first pioneer schools back in the mid seventies. The same crap that was taught back then is taught today . But you are probably correct that more emphasis is places on the governing kings.
just recently i explained to my parents and my wife in detail, why i would accept blood or red, white blood cells, platelets or plasma in a medical emergency.
i showed them the inconsistencies and flaws about blood fractions and also the biblical reasons that show clearly that jehovah and jesus do not want a jehovah's witness to die because of that wrong doctrine.. my parents reacted surprised.
they are both about 50 years in the "truth.
I agree with those that say yu would get disfellowshipped.
from jw.org (while waiting for new bible to download, i clicked on the link for "christian," which asks the following question...).
"are we christians?
we are christians, for the following reasons.
@SFTW-the terms elder, pioneer co are most certainly all titles. In fact aren't these titles called "positions"? When someone is a" ministerial servan"t isn't this referred to a stepping stone to higher position?.
Also elders and co's tell you what to do all the time and most certainly the governing body tells you what to do. Haven't you been paying attention to the articles lately about obedience to those taking the lead? Someone told me one that if the governing body would say to him to paint this wall with peanut butter and jam,--he would do it no question asked.
Be honest with yourself--start taking a good look and start making notes of all the times brothers with titles lord it over you and tell you what to do
You got to get your head out of the sand there my friend.
that text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.
second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.
you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.
This isn't a borg. This a wonderful forum of different ideas. We are united in one simple way----we all have shared in some measure the jehovah's witness experience.
finally got it up on youtube...the title right at the moment is just "grandma" but it's going to change to "grandma pleads with jehovah's witness granddaughter.".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.
we taped it about a week ago and my mom went into the hospital 3 days ago.
So very very sad. Such a sweet grandma. I wish I had a grandma.
The jw organization is twisted and cold. I hate it more and more each day for what it does to people and families.
Thanks for putting this up Bonezz and I hope grandma rallies. Give her a big kiss and hug.
Happy Birthday and many more to come.