from another thread:.
simon is now probably britains public enemy number one in watchtower eyes.
his forum has helped so many escape from the organisation.
I concur, agree, and heartily join in thanking Simon and Angharad for all the time, effort, money, and love they put into this site. I can't begin to tell you how much it means to me to correspond with people who understand.
Happyout (bowing repeatedly to Simon and Angharad)
hi.. i am a long time member of the board, but i am too embarrassed to put this under my username.
if people 'discover' who this is, please keep it to yourselves.
simon, my apologies, but please understand why i created the username.
Aspiration,
Thank you for sharing with us, and lots of good advice has been given already. I would just add that there are many physical illnesses which can masquerade as depression, so be sure you get full blood work, and also (if possible) a referral to a specialist who can test the chemicals in your brain for signs of imbalance. I have never actually had depression, but a friend of mine did, and the right medication straightened her right out.
Good luck to you, we are here for you whenever you need us.
Happyout
there have been many discussions on this board about the hope that we all have that the wts organization would tumble.. some have thought that the internet will play a big role ( i think so), others think that it is abuse issues, others still think it might be doctrinal issues.. if the wts was to take a fall, would there be a break off group in your opinion?
would there be the die-hard witnesses that would start a division, take over perhaps?
would some governing body members go one way, and others go another way?
I agree with Mulan that most of the people who leave are wary of joining a new religion, but I think there is a difference between leaving altogether and joining a splinter group. There are already those who have gone directly from dumbdom to another religion, and even started their own small Bible study group. Isn't that what Franz originally did? Had a small Bible study? I see more of that possibly happening, because so many of them (IMHO) have a true desire to worship God, and want to do that within the confines of a group.
Interesting question. I used to say if the dubs would allow freedom of thought I never would have left. I wonder if there were a splinter group that did that, would I be curious enough to investigate.
Happyout
i have a few people that offered to write my son while he is in bootcamp.
but i had a great idea this weekend i would love him to get a postcard for letter from all the states and as many countries as possible.
especially new zealand and australia.
Hi,
Sure, if you need a pen pal from Southern California, I'm your girl. Just PM me the address, and it will go out by the end of this week.
Happyout
you are only responsible to jehovah for believing what the society teaches.
only the society is responsible to jehovah for error taught, not individual witnesses.
where is this written by the society?
I would be surprised if they put this thought into writing, because it implies that the society could ever be wrong. That (as far as I know) has never been said, just that the light is getting brighter.
Happyout
being raised a witness, my mother has asked me whether or not i held her responsible for her bringing me up in the way that she has.
i feel that my upbringing is something my mother can be proud about.
even though i do not believe in the "truth", i do feel that she did a good job of raising us.
First of all, StinkyPantz, you are cracking me up!
Second, I think given the circumstances, my Mom did a FABULOUS job with us. She raised 5 good kids with a lot of things against her. My dad had substance abuse problems, and couldn't hold a job, her family is full of substance abusers so she couldn't turn to them for help, and she is a teacher, so her salary (while stable) was not the best in the world. Nevertheless, she bought a house in a nice area, bought time shares so we could sometimes go on vacation, and taught us all responsibility and morals. None of her children have been in any trouble, we are very close and love one another immensely, and we are solid citizens with homes and jobs. A lot of the people we were raised with are not doing as well as we are, and it has caused jealousy both inside and outside of the family. My mom, being the loyal dub, attributes everything to being a witness, but I remember even before we started studying, she had a vision that life would be better for her children, and she was training us to go for the best in life. She did not encourage college (she didn't actually speak against it, just encouraged pioneering when the subject of college came up), but she did encourage finding a good job and buying a house.
If I am half the woman my mom is, I will be awesome, because she is PHENOMENAL!
Happyout (who still shero worships her Mom)
how do you want to be remembered?
I will have my ashes scattered at sea, but my obituary will need to detail that I was a great mother, because I put effort into it each and every day. I want it to say I loved my family without reservation, and that I always tried to say something positive to everyone who crossed my path.
Happyout
seems its been awhile since we had one of these questions go round so i figured with all the newbies lately we shuld get a new one going.
i get to do it cause well umm errr..... i've been here for over a year (and yes noone noticed *sniff* *sniff* but thats ok).
soooo without further ado on to the question at hand..... why do you post here?.
Since my immediate family is still brainwashed, I came to this site to see if there were people who lived the weird tight rope life I live. To see if there were people who hate this religion as much as I do (even though I've been out for a long time) but don't let it consume their lives to the point where they can't have a normal conversation. To see if it was normal to harbor such animosity for a religion. To get ideas on how to open my family's eyes (none that have worked so far). Mostly, because I needed to "talk" to people who understand the "cult" and the scars that are left when you leave, but have loved ones still in.
Happyout (eternally grateful to Simon and Co. for this life saving site)
as witnesses we were told to "be lowly of mind".
and though the corporation has no problem tooting its own horn, it was always in bad form for the rf to do that.
as a business owner i know that self-promotion is essential for success.
It depends. If I am complimented on a specific thing, like my shoes or a suit I'm wearing, then I (because I'm an idiot), will say, Oh thanks, I got it on sale at ....... I can never just say thank you and leave it at that. If the compliment is about my appearance, I tend to disallow it, like, thanks I'm just in a good mood, or something to make light of it. I don't know why that is, I can't directly attribute it to the Borg.
Happyout (waiting for her next compliment)
"it's paradise, a 1000 years!".
"no more sorrow, no more tears.".
see the pictures in my book?.
How sad! Big hugs to you (((((((((Nicolaou)))))))
Happyout
