Great story, keep it coming.
Happyout
bttt
part i:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/58849/1.ashx .
part ii: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/58890/1.ashx.
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i just read the following article:
TJ,
I will say it again, I love you.
Six,
I actually said we could agree to disagree, but I would appreciate it if you did not attempt to put me down. "And I think you've lost the plot to say such a thing, given the information you have or lack thereof. Perhaps her house should be egged? Maybe a snow flake barbie effigy hung in the front yard, give the racist bitch a little of her own medicine?" As I stated before, I believe a proper reaction would have been, at least, sensitivity training so that she doesn't make some comment like this in front of impressionable children. I don't know if you have gotten the mistaken impression that I am thin skinned, but let me assure you, if I feel I have been slurred, I was. Play dumb if you want to, but using any slur, regardless of how often the word is used, is WRONG, and will offend the person it is aimed at, just as intended.
There are certainly subjects that you and I can agree on Six, but evidently humor is not one of them. Your last comment wasn't funny, wasn't nice, and wasn't appreciated.
If you feel the need to communicate further, please PM me as I will not respond to any other posts by you on this thread.
Happyout
scenario: you meet a person and like this person.
all of your friends tell you to beware of the person.
do you ignore their warnings and give your all to the friendship or are you more cautious than you would have been otherwise?.
I am a woman of strong opinions, and I form my own judgements. I listen to others, but I will make the final decision. A lot would likely depend on WHY my other friends don't like someone than if they did. I don't trust people that much initially, so my normal reticence usually keeps me from getting hurt. I haven't had a friend "turn" on me or deliberately hurt me in over a decade.
Of course, becoming my friend is quite a feat, and anyone willing to put in that kind of time and effort can't be all bad
Happyout
ahh yes.. eyegirl and i were taking that long dirty and shameful walk down memory lane.
tonight's topic.
the second school, and why it sucked monkey nostrils to be a sister back there giving a talk.. you would think, no sweat, smaller crowd, less pressure.
I, too, fondly look back upon my days on the stage. The wonderfully interesting topics that blended so easily into everyday conversation, the knowledge that you really did know all the scriptures in your talk by heart, the fact that your "householder" was guaranteed to show interest and practically beg on bended knee for a bible study. The understanding elder always praising your efforts, the congregation applauding politely as you exited the stage knowing you had made a "pleasing odor" to Jehovah.
Aaaahhhhh, I remember it well.
Happyout (whose drinking is obviously out of control)
even though i have been out of the borg for over a decade, when i run into an older witness, i sometimes still slip and say brother or sister so and so.. i was married by a baptist minister, and my husband insists that i address him as reverend.
this tends to make me a tad uncomfortable, although i don't know why.. when i lost my daughter, the hospital chaplain came by, and i easily referred to him as father, and never thought twice about it.
i know there were a lot more important things on my mind, but i wondered about it later.. what about you?
even though i have been out of the borg for over a decade, when i run into an older witness, i sometimes still slip and say brother or sister so and so.. i was married by a baptist minister, and my husband insists that i address him as reverend.
this tends to make me a tad uncomfortable, although i don't know why.. when i lost my daughter, the hospital chaplain came by, and i easily referred to him as father, and never thought twice about it.
i know there were a lot more important things on my mind, but i wondered about it later.. what about you?
even though i have been out of the borg for over a decade, when i run into an older witness, i sometimes still slip and say brother or sister so and so.. i was married by a baptist minister, and my husband insists that i address him as reverend.
this tends to make me a tad uncomfortable, although i don't know why.. when i lost my daughter, the hospital chaplain came by, and i easily referred to him as father, and never thought twice about it.
i know there were a lot more important things on my mind, but i wondered about it later.. what about you?
even though i have been out of the borg for over a decade, when i run into an older witness, i sometimes still slip and say brother or sister so and so.. i was married by a baptist minister, and my husband insists that i address him as reverend.
this tends to make me a tad uncomfortable, although i don't know why.. when i lost my daughter, the hospital chaplain came by, and i easily referred to him as father, and never thought twice about it.
i know there were a lot more important things on my mind, but i wondered about it later.. what about you?
TJ,
I got your e-mail and responded. You're bad, and StinkyPantz tried to warn me By the way, did anyone participate in your neighborhood?
If I am talking about them to someone else, I use their title, usually for purposes of identification. I guess I am freaked out about appearing to believe someone else's religion by buying into their title. Or maybe that's just my JW mom's teachings coming back to bite me. She was totally against us calling people outside of the borg by any title. Is that a dub teaching, or did my mom make that up all by her lonesome?
Happyout (always willing to admit her mental shortcomings, few though they may be )
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i just read the following article:
Six,
While I am easily able to admit I don't know the teacher's motivation (and have done so at least once on this thread) I am at a loss to understand when it would be NEEDED to make a statement like the one that was made. "A little Sambo sitting in the back of the class"? Why could she not have said, " a child sitting in the back of the class"? And, personally, I think the fact that she added "little" to the term goes far more towards showing some sort of bias than otherwise. There is possibly some reason she needed to identify the child by race, but then you have to accept that she knew the term referred to blacks, and it makes more sense to believe if she knew the term referred to blacks, then she knew it wasn't nice, at the very least.
The fact that something isn't used often in no way detracts from it's offensiveness. Because I don't use slurs personally, I won't go into the many words that used to be popular, are no longer often used, but still have the same intent and affect as they did decades ago. I know you won't like this, but I can't think of any other way to say it: calling a slur mild shows that you likely don't know how it feels to be called one. I am not saying that you have gone through life without issues, problems, name calling,etc. I am saying most every minority person I know reacts to slurs, old or new, and that's just the way it is. (and by react, I simply mean they are offended)
The one thing I agree with you on is the story is sparse on details. Maybe it wasn't a big enough story to warrant a follow up, but I could not find it anywhere. What it does say, however, is that two attendees of the conference reported the incident. Two. Not a lot (although I admittedly don't know the number of attendees). Seems like she almost did get away with it.
I just re-read the article again, trying desperately not to be biased, and there is no way I think this was said without racial bias. You can sugarcoat it by calling it "home spun wit" but it's a slur, and she should have had more severe a punishment than paid leave.
Just my opinion, and I think you and I will likely have to agree to disagree on this one.
Happyout
even though i have been out of the borg for over a decade, when i run into an older witness, i sometimes still slip and say brother or sister so and so.. i was married by a baptist minister, and my husband insists that i address him as reverend.
this tends to make me a tad uncomfortable, although i don't know why.. when i lost my daughter, the hospital chaplain came by, and i easily referred to him as father, and never thought twice about it.
i know there were a lot more important things on my mind, but i wondered about it later.. what about you?