Posts by StrongHaiku

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It's a great time to be alive: 'Star Trek Impulse Drive' works and could get us to the moon in 4 hours. Mars in 70 days.

by cappytan in

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yes, star trek impulse drive was click bait.

but this british designed engine has been compared to that.. interplanetary travel could be a step closer after scientists confirmed that an electromagnetic propulsion drive, which is fast enough to get to the moon in four hours, actually works.. .

the em drive was developed by the british inventor roger shawyer nearly 15 years ago but was ridiculed at the time as being scientifically impossible.. .

StrongHaiku

Great news. Very cool. If we don't want humans to end up being an evolutionary cul-de-sac, one of the things we will need to do is become a space-faring race.

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Clip of shocking testimony from Day 2 of the Royal Commission hearing

by cappytan in

i posted this as a reply to another thread, but thought it deserved it's own thread to draw attention to this important moment in the day 2 testimony.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl4fobrocc8.

StrongHaiku

A number of posters have commented on the embarrassing and clumsy way the JW elders/representatives have presented themselves on these hearings. Totally agree. But I would argue that it wouldn't matter which elder they picked, GB member, Jesus, or God himself, etc. to provide testimony.

Their position is fundamentally absurd and immoral. When your position is indefensible it does not matter who presents it.

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Clip of shocking testimony from Day 2 of the Royal Commission hearing

by cappytan in

i posted this as a reply to another thread, but thought it deserved it's own thread to draw attention to this important moment in the day 2 testimony.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl4fobrocc8.

StrongHaiku

DATA-DOG - Poor bastard!! I feel sorry for him, I really do! He's a poor, ignorant man. He's a victim of abuse and doesn't know it. He's been thrown under the bus by his gurus!

I had a similar sentiment until I imagined him in a priest or cardinal uniform.

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If Disfellowshipping pedophiles protects the congregation, what does it do for "Those Outside" they are expelled to?

by Wasanelder Once in

we all know the wt basis for disfellowshipping, (1 corinthians 5:9-13) 9 12 for what do i have to do with judging those outside?

do you not judge those inside, 13 while god judges those outside?

remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.. if removing "the man" is a protection for the congregation and no police are called, what does it say about the witnesses view of the world?

StrongHaiku

cappytan, thanks for posting the video.

Wow! It's like Bowditch had to reboot after each question. His answers seem to boil down to "We don't care what happens outside of the congregation. You'll are bird food as far as we're concerned." The only thing missing was him standing up after his deposition, dropping the mic, and giving everyone "the finger" as he walked out.

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Governing body deceiving members on purpose?

by wwjdnwt in

i was born into this religion.

i was a jw for well over 30 years.

i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.

StrongHaiku

The OP's question keeps popping up and I think it is possible that the latest scandal (e.g. the hearings in Australia) may be able to provide a clue as to whether the GB is delusional or con men. If the history of cults is any indication, and If they are delusional, they are likely to become more draconian, insular and settle for a smaller number of JWs that are COMPLETELY committed no matter what and will follow the "God Inspired" GB to the very end. If, however, they are con men, I can imagine that they are likely to bend and flex a bit more to accommodate the authorities and keep the game running.

However, no matter which path they choose, they will suffer. If they become more draconian, insular, etc. they will likely loose a younger demographic. If they flex and bend to accommodate the authorities, they risk loosing the older demographic which may see this as a weakness that maybe shake their confidence in the GB.

Can't wait to see how the GB counter-punches this last scandal. That should say a lot.

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

StrongHaiku

freemindfade - I may send a softer version of this post to my wife. Im sick of the in apologists brushing it off as nothing...

How about you edit the information as if it is a "Catholic Church" or other religion involved in the scandal and send it to her first? And, if she has any humanity left in her, get her sense of outrage. Then maybe reveal to her that this is actually about the JWs. Just a thought...

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

StrongHaiku

You summarized a lot of what I have been writing, thinking, and reading from others. Nothing I can add. Nicely done.

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Would the discovery of EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE completely debunk the bible and religion?

by Black Man in

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friends

i think it would.

instantly.

in fact, i hope one day soon that we somehow encounter extraterrestrial life because i think there would be a wholesale rejection of the bible and any/all religious institutions.

StrongHaiku

I can think of a realistic situation. It is possible we could find very fundamental life (e.g. bacteria) on Mars or some moon in the Solar System (e.g. Europa, Titan). If we were to find life, whatever way the JWs will try to spin it, should be supremely amusing.

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