Posts by Voyager

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I need help like I've never needed it before.....

by zenpunk in

i had a big conversation with a presiding overseer and brooklyn bethelite who called me after 8 years (since i left).

he invited me to the memorial and i explained why we are no longer jws citing the jw's investment in rand corporation as the number 1 reason.

he married my husband and i and we were once very close.

Voyager

Zenpunk:

I don't know if this will help, but my uncle is in the Airforce and he E-mailed the Watchtower requesting where to send a donation for the RAND corporation, and the Watchtower E-mailed him back with instructions to send check donations to the Watchtower itself. I can get a copy of it and send it to Randy Watters and then you can write to Randy if you want. Randys address is:

Randy Watters/Free Minds Inc./P.O. Box 3818/ Manhattan Beach, CA 90266

This way addresses are kept private, unless you know a better way. Everybody writes to Randy anyway. I wanted to post this info before, but some on this web remarked that some of the information I was posting was to old and worthless. So since I didn't want to bore the members, I just sat on it. Please post a note so that I know you got this message. Otherwise my efforts may not help you if your facing a time limit. You mentioned they are coming over tomorrow night? I dont think it can get to you that fast, unless faxed or something.

I can't say to much about it, but this RAND situation, is nothing compared to the stuff Randy is coming out with in the near future.

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Jehovah's Witnesses not Welcome--Romania

by Voyager in

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jehovah's witnesses not welcome in romania: go to:.

scroll down to romania, jehovah's witnesses are referred to there as dangerous and murderous.

Voyager

Jehovah's Witnesses not welcome in Romania: go to:

www.catholic.net/rcc/periodicals/igpress/cwr/cwr0896/worldwatch.html

Scroll down to Romania, Jehovah's Witnesses are referred to there as dangerous and murderous.

The Ballad Of The Lying Watchtower

by Voyager in

the ballad of the lying watchtower.

i came all the way from new york across the burning sand,.

just to create my own bible and i did it all by hand.. i've lied for years in the things i've taught,.

Voyager

The Ballad Of The Lying Watchtower

I came all the way from New York across the burning sand,

Just to create my own Bible and I did it all by hand.

I've lied for years in the things I've taught,

Stayed one step ahead so I wouldn't get caught.

I've ridden for miles through old Mexico,

I sow false prophecy everywhere I go.

The governing body and I seem to drink all night,

But when we get a liquored buzz we call it new light.

I've changed my doctrines in the things that I say,

Just to get my members to foot the bill and pay.

Iam the badest spiritual hombre in these here parts!

I've divided many families and broken a lot of hearts.

With my spiritual six guns I've put a lot of men down,

But Im to fast with lies to stay this hick town.

My gang is tough, the governing body they're called,

But most of them now are old, impotent, and bald.

The women all cackle when the pope is in town,

But, Lying Watchtower's here to put all the churches down!

Lying and deceiving is not really hard at all,

Not when you've had special training at the local Kingdom Hall.

It's mid afternoon as I stand in the streets,

Of another sucker territory claimed for literature increase.

Armed with altered Bible, occult literature and more,

Iam packing my book bag as I get to the door.

I strut up the driveway like an elder would walk,

Just itching for a show down using the lies I talk.

The householder can't win against the deception I teach,

Just one of the hidden requirements in the message I preach.

Iam fast on the draw as I grab my Awake,

Selling the magazines here will be a piece of cake.

But the house holder here has her own Bible book,

So my knees began to buckle and brains began to cook.

She's from a Christian Outreach and she really knows the score,

She shattered my spiritual six gun quoting from Matthew 24.

I began to feel quite guilty as I spoke, dodged, and lied,

There was no question about it she's staying on Jesus side.

The right time had come for me to draw and spiritually shoot,

But I found I had no bullets so was politely given the boot.

With my head then drooping and theocratically broken down,

I knew I lost the shoot out and wanted quickly out of town.

Later on I wondered if there's a chance she could be right,

But the governing body assured me that at Bethel things were tight.

I got in my car and then was New York bound,

Still wondering if my lies would be considered scripturally sound.

When I finally got to Bethel I found a new story to tell,

There was a new set of doctrines and a better scam to sell.

When I asked what was wrong with all the lies of before,

I was disfellowshipped for questioning and promply guided to the door.

Now I knew how it felt to be used by men of pride,

I had sacrificed my life away because I wasn't on God's side.

But in the early days when I was so fast on the draw,

I should have seen my arsenal was absent of God's law.

The Lying Watchtower rode off during that hot summer day,

Defeated by Christ Jesus and the real truth people say.

Yes, cut to pieces, by Christ Jesus two edged sword,

Ashamed of all the lies it assumed about the Lord.

Still riding in darkness we pray for the members release,

Cause Christ's the one who can do this through his love, grace, and peace.

This is the ballad of the Watchtower and all it's lies,

Condemned therefore blood guilty no matter what story it tries.

So we as true christians use compassion, love , and care,

Always remembering our loved ones in our thoughts and in our prayer.

So when your in Tombstone walk slow and not to fast,

The Watchtower is buried there with it's lies of all the past.

It appears that all the members caught wind of U. N. sin,

So they all partook at Memorial unbalancing the numbers again.

The Watchtower saw these numbers and heart failure it did feel,

It couldn't explain all the members partaking at the evening meal.

When it said it was a victim and the numbers just couldn't be true,

The jury said, "We're sorry the crime must be seen by two.

On the way to the hospital the Watchtower had blown it's hatch,

It needed a spiritual transfusion but I'm afraid there was no match.

The End

J&D

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On Swedish nationwide television today: SilentLambs

by TheOldHippie in

this evening, the swedish national television corporation is showing a one hour program based on bowen / silentlambs / panorama, called "j.w.

- a pedophiles' paradise".

Voyager

Old Hippie:

Thanks for the post. Information such as yours may save a life some day. Really good stuff. Does anybody have any information on any updated programs that will air in the U.S.? Voyager.

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ANOINTED SPIRITUAL INSIGHT?

by MacHislopp in

the anointed

anointed ones.

to his anointed

Voyager

Machislopp:

As always , I enjoyed your post. Your hard work and research are really to be commended. I appreciate the information and the way it is applied. Keep up the good work. Voyager

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1.25 Billion and JW lies

by Voyager in

this information could have already been posted, but if not here it is.. the watchtower society has printed thousands of articles on the subject of how bad things were during the holocaust.

there is no doubt in my mind that things were bad.

but was this the case for all jehovah's witnesses?

Voyager

Hi everybody:

This information could have already been posted, but if not here it is.

The Watchtower Society has printed thousands of articles on the subject of how bad things were during the holocaust. There is no doubt in my mind that things were bad. But was this the case for all Jehovah's Witnesses? Why don't we check out the information from an eye witness. What is even better is the fact that this eye witness was one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and was expelled for exposing the Watchtower for its lies about the holocaust.

This eye witness took over 30,000 photos of Auschwitz, and had the photos that the Watchtower feared being seen. Go to: www.abbc3.com/victims/index.htm

After you have checked on that information, then go to: www.jewishsf.com/bk990129/usswissbanks.htm Scroll down to the 5th and 6th paragraph. Do you wonder how big the slice of 1.25BILLION the Watchtower is going to get? Perhaps no one will ever know. Do you think this means that the JW members will be given a break in having to give their own donations for a while? Do you think the Watchtower will take everybody out to eat after the Sunday talk? You can draw your own conclusions.

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The Watchtower's Membership for Political Practice.

by Voyager in

thousands of jehovah's witnesses are unaware that the watchtower society, has another corporation working for them.

this is called: jehovah's witness holocaust-era survivors fund, inc. this is part of the results of the watchtower signing on, as a member of the armenian national committee association.

to get proof of that go to: www.anca.org/anca/actionalerts.asp?aaid=16 scroll down all of the interfaith religions, until you come to jehovah's witnesses, and the public affairs office address and web.

Voyager

Link:

Thanks for the info, We just got a computer 4 months ago, so everything we are finding appears to be new to us, but old to you guys who have been on the webs for a while. But I'll do my best to catch up. Thanks

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How I Help The Society Fake Its Statistics

by metatron in

i'm a fake publisher.

i turn in a fake field service report.

i claim fake hours.

Voyager

Metatron:

Absolutely correct-good writing. Hits the nail right on the head. Couldn't agree more. I knew an Elder once , who counted time visiting his father in the nursing home. His father, by the way, claimed to be of the anointed. He would leave mag issues there in the nursing home, and then he had the gall to turn in time for his FATHER. He claimed that his father was witnessing to other patients in the nursing home. Unbelievable, due to the fact that his father was, crippled, bedridden, and had tubes in his mouth and nose.

But as long as there were high numbers, for the COs visit, then everything was just fine.

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LAST WILL & TESTAMANT OF A J.W.

by nightwarrior in

the society is bequeathed millions of pounds from the estates of dead brothers & sisters in england & all over the world,they leave there moneys for the furtherance of the good news,they assume the moneys left in the hands of the organization is used to promote the kingdom work in third world countrys,are they trying to buy there way into heaven by leaving moneys to the society (& cutting out there next of kin.).

my thoughts are these every country that the watchtower society expand the building of kingdom halls in is a new steping stone,openings for further greedy business activitys ,by the borg.. as the local poor people build the halls themselves no labour charges they allso pay for the building materials out of there own pockets,the only input the organization gives is there experience in controlling the willing poor labour force therfore would any acting j.w explain why the society dont , invest the moneys left them in the way dead ones would have expected.

but they do invest in variouse companys worldwide thats why they billions hidden in different bank accounts ,instead of using the moneys for helping the poorer countrys ,the ownership of the land surrounding the kingdom halls is allso owned by the society,allthough paid for by local people,whom end up owning nothing.. do the society pay tax on oversea contributions, estate taxes.if not how much money is owed to the governments both in america and england ???????.

Voyager

Night Warrior:

I agree totally, the greed of the Watchtower is beyond belief. No love shown for those, truely in need. Money is literally stockpiled everywhere, in the name of the Watchtower.

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NEW WORLD TRANSLATIO. WAS IT INSPIRED BY JEHOVAH.

by nightwarrior in

who wrote the new world translation.?????????????

as it has no author,no one is brave enough to claim responsibility for this particular interpretation of the bible.

whom is responsible for all the changes of scripture, no one will put there name to doing this.therfore if no one from the society claims to being the author ,is it because they have invalidated the word of jehovah and are scared that they will receive the plagues as mentioned in revelation.for adding to the scriptures or taking things away.

Voyager

Old Hippie:

I appreciate your comment, but remember that the application still stands, that if you add or take away from scripture no matter how it applies, you are still breaking God's law. Are you seriosly going to make everyone believe out there, that you don't believe that the NWT has had additions or subtractions?

If you do, they may think twice before reading anymore of your threads.