does anyone know of anything counter-watchtower in mandarin chinese?
i can't seem to find anything in chinese.
randy.
Randy:
I will call this (instructor) tomorrow on the phone and see if some assistance can be given in finding some ant-JW literature in Mandarin. If anybody can find it, then these language instructors should know exactly where to look.
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does anyone know of anything counter-watchtower in mandarin chinese?
i can't seem to find anything in chinese.
randy.
Randy:
I have already e-mailed the website and sent you a copy.
Thanks!
does anyone know of anything counter-watchtower in mandarin chinese?
i can't seem to find anything in chinese.
randy.
Dogpatch:
All of this information came from the same website:
http://www.saintsalive.com/newsletters/jan_feb-00_nl.htm
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Semi Annual Conferences now being beamed across the Internet
Excerpted from a report byhttp://www.generalconference.com
We have a scalable capacity starting at a 100,000 audio stream and we can go up from there," he said.
The Internet offering is expected to be especially popular with Mormons living in regions of the world without radio or television access. ? The cyber-broadcasts, available for PC and Macintosh platforms, will be offered in 12 languages: English, Spanish, Portuguese, Japanese, German, French, Samoan, Tongan, Korean, Cambodian and both the Mandarin and Cantonese Chinese dialects.With more than 10 million members spread over 160 nations and territories, the LDS Church sees the addition of Internet portals to conference proceedings as a logical step to enhancing members' access to the latest developments concerning their faith.
WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. ?? Two Southern Baptist congregations are preparing a crusade to teach their members how to convert "cult" members, including Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Cult Awareness Impact Crusade is scheduled for Feb. 6-8 at Calvary Baptist Church and Oaklawn Baptist Church.
They want to help prevent their members from joining those religions and teach them how to convert Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons to Christianity.
They might be able to get you in contact with some materials in the Mandarin Chinese counter-JW subjects. Or help you find som-one who can get the materials for you.
If this doesn't help, then I'll keep looking!
(credit goes to debbie on kent's forum)!
may need to cut and paste into browser.. http://www.bdpost.co.uk/content/barkinganddagenham/post/news/story.aspx?brand=bdponline&category=news&tbrand=northlondon24&tcategory=newsbdp&itemid=weed08%20mar%202005%2017%3a05%3a30%3a360 .
benefits fraudster jailed.
badboy:
http://www.gov.im/dhss/security/benefits/fraud.xml
You can tell us about this in two ways
Calling our benefit fraud hotline:
0808 1624043 Monday to Friday 8.00am and 5.00pm
When you call this number you will be asked for information about the person you think is committing fraud, including the type of fraud, their personal details, their appearance and whether they have a partner who is also committing fraud. It doesnt matter if you dont know all this information - any details you can supply may be helpful.
lawsuit: his lawyers say philip morris inc. knew its product was dangerous and addictive.
11:32 pm pst on monday, march 7, 2005
by john welsh / the press-enterprise
Some interesting questions to ask in any of these issues would be:
If the tables were turned, just how long do you think (you) would last in the congregation, if the elders found out that (you) had a (trust) agreement with a tobacco company?
Just how long would it take the elders to draw up a judicial committee?
If you had such a trust agreement and told one of your brothers in the congregation, just how long do you think it would take him to turn you in to the elders?
If the Watchtower never even took one dime from the trust agreement, are they still not violating their own standards by allowing their (name) to be used to stumble others?
Aren't thousands of Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowshipped by reason of bringing (reproach) upon Christian congregation?
Is the Watchtower any better in these regards by allowing this trust to have (ever) existed in the first place?
Have there not been thousands of Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowshipped for (lesser) worldly associations? It really boils down to the principles, doesn't it?
lawsuit: his lawyers say philip morris inc. knew its product was dangerous and addictive.
11:32 pm pst on monday, march 7, 2005
by john welsh / the press-enterprise
seesthesky:
As stated before on the other post, Expatbrit said it best and proved it from the Watchtower's own words:
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III: CONCLUSION.
The initial quotes showed clearly that the Watchtower regards smoking as an unchristian activity. Indeed, smoking is a disfellowshipping offence for a Jehovah's Witness. A Jehovah's Witness is also not permitted to be employed in the tobacco industry, even to the extent of working at the cigarette serving counter of a store. There can be no doubt that if an individual Jehovah's Witness invested in the cigarette industry, the Watchtower would consider this an unchristian type of investment.
Yet, a trust which exists for the primary reason of generating income for the Watchtower, invests in a cigarette company. While the amount of the investment is small, it is not the amount that is the issue, but the principle: the Watchtower Society will benefit from an investment made in the tobacco industry.
They will do this knowingly, because if I can get hold of this information, do you really think that the Watchtower Society doesn't have a copy of these very same documents? And while the objection could be made that it is not actually the Watchtower Society itself making the investment, but just receiving the cash, is this a valid defence? If they know that the money is from a source they have condemned as unchristian, are they not hypocritical in receiving it? Remember that the sole purpose of this trust is to generate income for the Watchtower.
In fact, here is another example of the Watchtower's hypocrisy in matters of principle. That which they condemn other religions for, and restrict their individual followers from, becomes acceptable when it results in $$$ for the Watchtower Society itself.
From their own lips:
*** g70 2/8 23 Churches in Business *** After listing some of the many companies in which the Vatican has substantial interest Mr. Lo Bello observes: "The foregoing details provide an uncomfortably sharp realization that the Vatican and its men have indeed carved a niche for their firm in the world of big business."
The vast business holdings of the and of other religious organizations bind them inseparably with the business world. How unlike the true Christians concerning whom Jesus Christ said: "They are no part of the world"!-John .
The religious organization that truly is serving God, in harmony with the example set by Jesus Christ, concentrates on preaching and teaching the liberating truths of his Word and does not become involved in commercial businesses. Following the Bible's instructions, it does not involve itself in "the commercial businesses of life."-2 Tim. 2:4.
Expatbrit
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i have heard recently that the society has some sort of financial connections with philip morris the tobacco giant.. is this true???
chukyy
As I said before, Expatbrit said it best, and he proved it from their own words:
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III: CONCLUSION.
The initial quotes showed clearly that the Watchtower regards smoking as an unchristian activity. Indeed, smoking is a disfellowshipping offence for a Jehovah's Witness. A Jehovah's Witness is also not permitted to be employed in the tobacco industry, even to the extent of working at the cigarette serving counter of a store. There can be no doubt that if an individual Jehovah's Witness invested in the cigarette industry, the Watchtower would consider this an unchristian type of investment.
Yet, a trust which exists for the primary reason of generating income for the Watchtower, invests in a cigarette company. While the amount of the investment is small, it is not the amount that is the issue, but the principle: the Watchtower Society will benefit from an investment made in the tobacco industry.
They will do this knowingly, because if I can get hold of this information, do you really think that the Watchtower Society doesn't have a copy of these very same documents? And while the objection could be made that it is not actually the Watchtower Society itself making the investment, but just receiving the cash, is this a valid defence? If they know that the money is from a source they have condemned as unchristian, are they not hypocritical in receiving it? Remember that the sole purpose of this trust is to generate income for the Watchtower.
In fact, here is another example of the Watchtower's hypocrisy in matters of principle. That which they condemn other religions for, and restrict their individual followers from, becomes acceptable when it results in $$$ for the Watchtower Society itself.
From their own lips:
*** g70 2/8 23 Churches in Business *** After listing some of the many companies in which the Vatican has substantial interest Mr. Lo Bello observes: "The foregoing details provide an uncomfortably sharp realization that the Vatican and its men have indeed carved a niche for their firm in the world of big business."
The vast business holdings of the and of other religious organizations bind them inseparably with the business world. How unlike the true Christians concerning whom Jesus Christ said: "They are no part of the world"!-John .
The religious organization that truly is serving God, in harmony with the example set by Jesus Christ, concentrates on preaching and teaching the liberating truths of his Word and does not become involved in commercial businesses. Following the Bible's instructions, it does not involve itself in "the commercial businesses of life."-2 Tim. 2:4.
Expatbrit
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You are still more than welcome to scan any documents from the Watchtower Society, stating that they are not, or never have, benefited financially from Phillip Morris!
Valis, Happy Birthday and many-many more to come my friend!
Valis, another year (younger)!
my parents went to the assembly this weekend.
they were telling me about disciplining children... the speaker was saying how all babies are born selfish and demanding for their own needs and not anyone elses.
the jist of the talk being about discipline, and training children ...ie taking them out for a good beating.. well, i don't know if any of you have ever 'just seen red!
Yes, and this so-called Biblical discipline can be taken to the extremes, as we have seen several times! Remember this?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,596231,00.html
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Devout couple accused of flogging daughter to death Stephen Bates, religious affairs correspondent Saturday November 17, 2001 The Guardian A devoutly religious couple from Chicago's South Side have been charged with murder after allegedly beating their daughter more than 160 times with a 2cm-thick length of electrical cable. A court heard yesterday that Larry and Constance Slack, both Jehovah's Witnesses, beat 11-year-old Laree - a punishment they believed was laid down in the Bible - after she was uncooperative during a search for her mother's jacket. The girl was tied to a metal futon frame, and at one point her five siblings, aged eight to 17, were told to hold her down. A towel was stuffed in her mouth to stifle her screams. The Slacks, both 41, gave themselves up to the police when Laree was pronounced dead at a local hospital. They are liable to the death penalty if convicted. Demetria Soter, coordinator of paediatric trauma at Cook county hospital, said: "Do you know how hard it is to kill an 11 year-old? Massive amounts of force are needed to die like this." | ||||||||
(credit goes to debbie on kent's forum)!
may need to cut and paste into browser.. http://www.bdpost.co.uk/content/barkinganddagenham/post/news/story.aspx?brand=bdponline&category=news&tbrand=northlondon24&tcategory=newsbdp&itemid=weed08%20mar%202005%2017%3a05%3a30%3a360 .
benefits fraudster jailed.
Gill:
The Edge:
Badboy:
Doubtfullyours:
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Thank you for your comments and reply's.
I would dare to say that if the Governments, around the globe were to catch and round up all of the JWs who are receiving Social Security benefits, disability checks, pentions, veterans checks, and the like, and who are also (working) and taking money under the table for (on-the-side jobs), then entire (new) prisons would have to be built. There would no-doubt be tens of thousands of them.
Every congregation I have ever been in, (always) had some older brothers and sisters who were receiving government benefits of one kind or another, who were also taking on some form of side job, (even in the home) that would earn them extra cash.
My own Mother included!
When she was alive, she received Social Security benefits, plus part of my Dads benefits, and she was always making extra money doing such things as: (1) Taking in ironing. (2) Cleaning peoples homes. (3) Baby sitting. (4) Cooking and delivering meals to elderly. etc.
Many times, when I would give her money to help pay bills, I found out later, that the money that I had given to her was being spent on her taking other sisters out to eat at some fine restaurants!
I nearly hit the roof!
Thanks!
